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To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1253)	12/26/2004 1:00:16 PM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5425

yeah yeah yeah. You lost all your money 3x in a row (RMIL, TVSI, AZNT) because CEO's kept duping you. Always someone else duping you. Forever with the duping. Hey, if you weren't so friggin' stupid, then you'd probably quit getting duped. Posters here told you all the warning signs and showed you the whole road map well in advance of the SEC halts and losses. But you continue muttering on with that goofy conspiracy crap instead of facing reality. It's very well-documented that the only person who was "enlisted" for anything was Sylver enlisting you to pump his stock. "Sylver was brilliant. He duped investors into believing that the same group that shorted RMIL was shorting AZNT. He left out his role in the scam. He cancelled shares to fabricate a short. The racketeers enlisted the webfraud3 to go after Sylver and combat the fabricated short. Shareholders were caught in the cross-fire."

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1253)	12/27/2004 5:51:25 AM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5425

Still waiting. You said Sylver was brilliant. You said you "followed" Zapara over to AZNT after losing money in RMIL because Zapara promoted AZNT, too. Yeah, that's pretty smart -- follow Zapara from one SEC-halted stock into another SEC-halted stock. Lose money in one, repeat same action following the same crook, thinking result will magically lead to a different result. In reality (that portion of the world with which you have a particular reluctance to address), we'd ask, "Why did you, yourself, pump such shitty stocks so vociferously on behalf of owners Breton, Raabe, and Sylver?" Oh yeah... I forget. Those were "brilliant" CEO's just as you describe Sylver as brilliant back in msg #1253. Except, he wasn't brilliant. We pointed out how you were getting ripped off back as far as 1998. But you still describe him as "brilliant" despite his brilliance on the witness stand wondering if "cash flow" is an "accounting term" to an SEC attorney. Sylver: "Cash Flow? That's an accounting term, right? Hey that's your man, and if that didn't clue you in ... if nobody's said this before ... you're really stupid. Case closed. Of course, you could still argue about it I suuppose, but the record is out there, per your own desire. You pumped stocks for CEOs, like Mikey, who took your money and they didn't even know if "cash flow" was included in basic accounting. AND you gave your money to that person, who didn't know nuthin' about accounting. Good stock choice, Gary!!! Then, you fucked some friends, who don't even like you anymore, like Mike Kuhns who lost $200K to your consistent BSing about what was really happening with AZNT and the SEC who finally put the hammer down.

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1253)	12/27/2004 8:19:20 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

Dobry and "revisionist history"... To:Big Dog who wrote (2997) From: Pugs Thursday, Jun 4, 1998 12:38 PM View Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6488 'Dog, I have orders in, I swear, I'll make them Market Orders myself, I want to break these guys, I've watched them rape & pillage relentlessy day in and day out, they're making a naked market in TVSI. IMO, they ARE broken, we just gotta tip it in!! Pugs Message 4721630 To:tonto who wrote (48708) From: Pugs Thursday, Jun 25, 1998 5:11 PM View Replies (5) \| Respond to of 55350 Unlike you tonto, I will not make any assumptions, nor will I deduce and think for others. As for TVSI, you got it wrong, but I am aware that you dessiminate misinformation from Dempsey Mork and expect that. 70MM shares were traded in 3 days, the dump & pump by certain individuals, the stall in trading, then s martin rising to do some timely slamming, demonstrated to me, (IMO) manipulation. You tell me, why I should broadcast publically to guys shorting & manipulating TVSI my exit strategy. You dumped it, you pump it. Not only did I sell on a spike, I made more money rolling it into good momentum plays. Now I can buy TVSI dirt cheap thanks to you nice fellas. I've spoke to Raabe at length. I have good reason to believe why Mork is/was shorting TVSI. I'm long TVSI and will accumulate as I see fit. I can care less what a basher thinks or posts. I will not publicize my investments to Mork or his goons any longer, its been very profitable doing it this way. Pugs Message 5018516 th

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1253)	12/27/2004 8:43:45 AM
From: scion	Respond to of 5425

Dobry 'defines' the "new world order" It is my writing of the new world order you would have to see it and then whatever baggage you bring to the table you will assimilate thusly. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q Define for me the phrase "new world order" as you use it in this document? A Sure. Okay. "This Internet version of Permeating, basically serves as 'clipboard' of gathered sources. I thank everyone who has been able to point me in the right way. An excerpt of Chapter 1 of this book version (in the works) can be seen by 20 clicking here." Then there's another address. And you can call me and excerpt is: "In 1997 I got a stock tip from a friend about a company called Panda Project, PNDA. With a desire to learn more about the company I went online and entered 2 'PNDA' from the Yahoo search engine. One of the url's that popped-up was a link to the Silicon Investor message boards. Little did I know at that time that I was permeating the cyber membrane that separated me from the New World Order. That Yahoo generate link served as a conduit between life, as I knew it, in the Bob Brinker investment world of diversified portfolios and dollar-cost-averaging, and the online investor's hell, the OTC Laundromat. Cyber boiler-rooms disguised as message boards adrift in cyberspace like floating fast food joints in a Hanna-Barbera, Jetson-esque sky and every smiling face you encounter at the fly-by window morphs into a blood-sucking, blob-like alien, life force whose survival is solely dependent upon how much money it can steal and make disappear. Once you permeated the cyber membrane that separated you from the New World Order, you find yourself wallowing thru an OTC cesspool of money laundering sinkholes. You find yourself... in the belly of the beast. "The two-party system has been utterly homogenized by corrupt money. The mob ad Mossad have cut a deal with Wall Street and the CIA to run the world as a global plantation for the benefit of the global plutocracy. That's a case from Ace R. Hayes, Portland Free Press. Q Mr. Dobry, if your intent in response to my question as you -- to define new world order is to simply read the document you can tell me that? A I did Mr. Argentar. Q Okay so your answer to definition of new world order is simply to read the document? A My answer it's a book I'm writing about what this new world order is and if you were a publisher I will give it to you but until then, the book is being inn. Q Can I? A But in the context of what we have is this document this is what I would call the new world order. Q Sir, you use a phrase in this document, and I want to you tell me what the phrase means? A Sure. Q Are you telling me you don't -- you can't tell me what new world order means? MR. RICHTER: Objection. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q As you use this phrase in the document. MR. RICHTER: Objection. It's asked and answered. THE WITNESS: Can you define for me the song of the bird. It's writing Mr. Argentar. It is used metaphorically and the book is -- tells you metaphorically what it is. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q You use -- your -- so you're refusing to tell me what you mean by new world order? A No, it appears to me you're refusing to my answer. It is a metaphor. MR. RICHTER: Objection. You are arguing with the witness. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q With all due respect, counsel, this answer is -- is utterly ridiculous that he can't tell me the meaning of a phrase he uses repeatedly in this document that that's the answer you want to stand on? A The answer, Mr. Argentar is that it is a metaphor. Q For what? A There's an {sp} elkamy. Everybody brings to the table their own emotional baggage, their life experience. Everyone will attribute their own elkamy to the metaphor. Q You said you used it as a metaphor. What is it a metaphor for? A Mr. Argentar, maybe you're not a literary man. We -- we each have elkamy. We all find meaning in things, right? To some of us, the song of a bird it means nothing; to some of us, it's music. It's beautiful, you know. When you look at new world order here, people who experienced stock manipulation per se through the OTC, they will bring to the table somebody else who has never invested in a stock whatsoever. So there's an elkamy to the word new world order. As a writer, it would be my job to bring the whole thing home to people coming from different parts of life, different walks of life carrying different emotional baggage to attribute their own baggage to the metaphor. Q Okay. But as you use the phrase, how do you use the phrase new world order as a metaphor? I don't -- I'm not asking you what other people may interpret new world order to mean? A Sure. Q I'm asking you how you use the phrase new world order as a metaphor. What is it a metaphor for? A This is the new world order. Q You're referring -- you're saying this document is the new world order? Is that your testimony? A Metaphorically, yes. That's my answer. MR. RICHTER: For the record we're referring to exhibit 13. BY MR. ARGENTAR: Q Exhibit 13 is the new world order metaphorically that's your testimony? A It is my writing of the new world order you would have to see it and then whatever baggage you bring to the table you will assimilate thusly. Message 18159425

To: Louie_al-Arouri who wrote (1253)	12/28/2004 11:38:43 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 5425

Sylver isn't "brilliant". He's crazy. Sylver was brilliant. He duped investors into believing that the same group that shorted RMIL was shorting AZNT. ...and you were easily duped because you're extremely gullible. You keep leaving out one very important point, though: as early as the end of August 1998 we'd already exposed many of Mad Mikey's lies. But YOU refused to believe us. You joined right in with the Mikester, posting his lies and at times embellishing on them. You also simply made stuff up. As I've said a number of times, you're damn lucky the SEC didn't pull you into its case against Sylver and AZNT. But maybe they just couldn't handle two total whackjobs at a time.