To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (1264 ) 12/27/2004 9:55:05 AM From: Louie_al-Arouri Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 5425 Bill, this "legacy" the webfraud3 faction has created is a charade. It depends on one beleiving that Pugs is a central figure. As for RMIL, and reality based, you must throw out the webfraud3 version. It was created by guys sued for fraud, remember? Try this - Zapara (Alexis Intl) received restricted shares from RMIL for services. Once the legends were lifted, the millions of shares were split three ways, divided between Morgan, Breton and Zapara. Zapara shared an office with Dempsey Mork in Rancho Mirage. Zapara gave Mork some shares. All the stock was dumped and then RMIL did a R/S to hide the shares from being accounted for. In fact, RMIL could be trading today except for the fact that Breton and Morgan can't let an auditor anywhere near their books because of the Zapara shares and the R/S. Zapara never delivered Mork's shares. It became war on the boards over these shares. Pugs noticed that Alexis was also promoting AZNT. Sylver told prospective shareholders that Zapara stole stock from him and AZNT was suing him over said shares. This was what RMIL shareholders wanted to hear. Someone doing something about person's like Zapara. Zapara in his earlier days, before sharing Mork's office, was working for stock promoter Joe Lanza. Lanza, of course, hired Carmine Bua as legal counsel for his OMDA venture. Bua was also legal counsel for Peter Schur's boiler-room, WellRich. WellRich was the house offering AZNT To the public. If you ran down the list of those receiving insider shares, you saw names like Cary Cimino, George Doumanis and other Operation Uptick and Bermuda Short racketeers. The webfraud3 were duped by these racketeers into going after Sylver after Sylver rallied shareholders behind his war on illegal shorting and individuals like Zapara and Joseph Andrew Mann. In fact, AZNT won a $217 million judgment against Mann in fedral court regardless that Mitchell (using Bruce Judd communique's) and yourself (posting Carmine Bua communique's on your website) were attempting to influence the lawsuit on-line. Now, in retrospect, you ask why shareholders never listened to the persons retained by racketeers to go after Sylver? Get a grip. Eventually Sylver's acts revealed that he was a co-conspirator with those taking AZNT public. Emschwiller wrote his book debunking Mitchell's lies and the Chicago Tribune reported who was paid and by whom. Only on SI is this story told with Pugs as a central figure or with the BS speculation you salt & pepper on it regarding "friends" and what "really happened". Not surprising, is it?Still waiting. You said Sylver was brilliant. You said you "followed" Zapara over to AZNT after losing money in RMIL because Zapara promoted AZNT, too. Yeah, that's pretty smart -- follow Zapara from one SEC-halted stock into another SEC-halted stock. Lose money in one, repeat same action following the same crook, thinking result will magically lead to a different result. In reality (that portion of the world with which you have a particular reluctance to address), we'd ask, "Why did you, yourself, pump such shitty stocks so vociferously on behalf of owners Breton, Raabe, and Sylver?" Oh yeah... I forget. Those were "brilliant" CEO's just as you describe Sylver as brilliant back in msg #1253. Except, he wasn't brilliant. We pointed out how you were getting ripped off back as far as 1998. But you still describe him as "brilliant" despite his brilliance on the witness stand wondering if "cash flow" is an "accounting term" to an SEC attorney. Sylver: "Cash Flow? That's an accounting term, right? Hey that's your man, and if that didn't clue you in ... if nobody's said this before ... you're really stupid. Case closed. Of course, you could still argue about it I suuppose, but the record is out there, per your own desire. You pumped stocks for CEOs, like Mikey, who took your money and they didn't even know if "cash flow" was included in basic accounting. AND you gave your money to that person, who didn't know nuthin' about accounting. Good stock choice, Gary!!! Then, you fucked some friends, who don't even like you anymore, like Mike Kuhns who lost $200K to your consistent BSing about what was really happening with AZNT and the SEC who finally put the hammer down.