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To: brian h who wrote (57695)	12/28/2004 10:31:16 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 74559

hello brian, when thinking of historical characters who did much, a measure of balance is necessary, whatever the private sufferings and however the family anguish. Mao did what he did when he did it and achieved much for the many. Revolution = blood. End of story. Saying the CCP lies means as little as chanting politicians are liars. Pretty meaningless, as all politicians lie, to varying degrees, and more often now than ever. Saying Mao was a criminal means as much as ranting Napoleon was a scoundrel. Meaningless. Lacks perspective. Devoid of objectivity. Absent the big picture. Shows political immaturity. Displays lack of geopolitical sophistication. Too much provincialism. Unbecoming of folks who are not of the peasantry. And gives away the inability for independent thinking. Politicians, for the most part, are not nice people, that is a given, and very few are judged on the basis of nice vs not nice, or not as nice. And for the most part, they are judged by what they accomplished, and at what cost. For those that do accomplish something constructive at somewhat less cost in destruction, critics aplenty, but for the all parts, the ranting are meaningless when put into historical context. For the Nationalist Party apparently could not get the job done, due in most part perhaps to their lack of ruthlessness even though they were plenty ruthless already. With Mao, <<History is there to investigate>> is not necessary. History knows already. What would you have preferred? That the Chinese, your kin, remain weak and the dogs of Asia, ruled from Tokyo? This is why race, color, nationality matter on such issues, but only to the thinking, not for the brainwashed or the mentally feeble. So, you do not like the CCP. Well, I do not care for them either. But the Nationalist Party could not get the job done. You would never admit preference for the Japanese (or would you?) What then is your solution had you had a choice to play god, and how realistic is that solution? Just Is means exactly Just Is, as in there was no other way. Chugs, Jay

To: brian h who wrote (57695)	12/29/2004 11:53:39 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

hello brian, See here ... taipeitimes.com "Taiwanese taekwondo star Chen Shih-hsin (???), a hero at home for winning the nation's first ever Olympic gold medal, has taken a coaching job at one of China's leading martial arts academies, a school official said yesterday." ... what is happening? Is everybody who is anybody in Taiwan moving to the Mainland, where things are happening with a bit more ... how shall we say? energy? I understand that Freedom restricting Taiwan local authorities are trying almost everything to put the hero under island-arrest (I guess desperate times require terrible measures) china.scmp.com Thursday, December 30, 2004 Taiwanese taekwondo star 'can't take job in Shanghai' JACKY HSU in Taipei Plans by Taiwanese Olympic gold medalist Chen Shih-hsin to teach taekwondo on the mainland were thwarted by the island's authorities yesterday. "She must obtain prior approval from the Mainland Affairs Council [MAC] and the National Council of Physical Fitness and Sports [NCPFS] before she can go to the mainland to teach," said NCPFS chairman Chen Chuan-shou. He was referring to an offer from the Shanghai-based Qingpu Martial Arts Institute for Chen to coach mainland taekwondo athletes. The 26-year-old Taiwanese athlete and her coach and father, Chen Wei-hsiung, were invited by the institute to visit Shanghai on December 11 for three days, during which she was given a contract as head taekwondo coach in Shanghai. Her father was also given a contract to serve as a technical adviser. But reports of their contracts drew an immediate backlash from Taiwanese authorities. The NCPFS demanded that Chen clarify her intentions, saying teaching taekwondo on the mainland was against Taiwanese regulations. MAC chairman Joseph Wu Jau-shieh pointed out that under the Mainland Relations Act, all paid employment by Taiwanese for mainland authorities required prior approval. The NCPFS chairman yesterday said taekwondo was Taiwan's best hope of a gold medal at the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. "The mainland is our big competitor, and so we have to be cautious in this kind of employment issue," Mr Chen said during a meeting of the legislature in Taipei. The NCPFS chairman said Chen and her father had told him that it was all a "misunderstanding". "She told the council she was given the contract without being informed beforehand, and she was surprised too. In the end, she did not bring the contract back," the chairman said. Chen was not available for comment yesterday. But Sun Jianqun , head of the Qingpu Martial Arts Institute, said the school still hoped to have her on its staff. Additional reporting by Minnie Yang Chugs, Jay