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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: WWWWWWWWWW who wrote (23864)	12/28/2004 7:22:59 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

the myth that living on a boat is cheap. Oh. Well. If you want to be THAT WAY. A boat is a hole in the water you pour money into. "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it." (reputedly J. P. Morgan) Here's the scoop. What city do you live in? Call up one of your marinas, and ask them if they allow liveaboards, and if so, what the added fee for living aboard is. I don't have too. I have a sister in law that lives on one. She has friends who do. And most marinas don't allow liveaboards. But if you can get in, it's still cheaper than land housing. Then, buy a boat, and find out about all the hidden expenses You appear to have missed something. I've owned 5. I know about those "hidden expenses". Their much worse if the boat is raced. You plan on replacing at least one sail each year routinely. Message #23867 from WWWWWWWWWW at 12/28/2004 7:10:43 PM "You must move in a different group of liveaboards than I have seen. Here docking fees are less than trailer space fees and far less than apartment or house rent. And a houseboat costs less than a condo or townhouse." Ah, the myth that living on a boat is cheap. Here's the scoop. What city do you live in? Call up one of your marinas, and ask them if they allow liveaboards, and if so, what the added fee for living aboard is. Then, ask them what the liveaboard rate is "capped" at and how long the waiting list is. How many years, exactly? Then, buy a boat, and find out about all the hidden expenses, beyond moorage. Haulout fees. Sails. Drop a shackle in the water? There goes $80 Storage locker. Need a new halyard? Whip out the Citicard. Damn, my Brooks & Gatehouse broke. Goodbye $2000 LOL. I'm sure you know all this. And on and on. If you're talking about liveaboards in metropolitan areas (as I gather from this thread, unless I'm mistaken, which I very well could be) it still takes some serious jack and I don't know if the majority of liveaboards there would be Democrats. <-- ASSuming that most well-off people are GOP in the first place, which is another assumption I guess. Yep. Bur most liveaboards aren't sail; they're houseboats. They don't have sails or halyards. They do have other things to soak up money though. ASSuming that most well-off people are GOP in the first place, which is another assumption I guess. A popular assumption. Except when they want to pretend we're hillbilly rednecks.

To: WWWWWWWWWW who wrote (23864)	12/28/2004 7:50:08 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

If you're talking about liveaboards in metropolitan areas (as I gather from this thread, unless I'm mistaken, which I very well could be) it still takes some serious jack and I don't know if the majority of liveaboards there would be Democrats. <-- ASSuming that most well-off people are GOP in the first place, which is another assumption I guess. That is, unless you're one of the 1960's relics who live on ratty sailboats and converted lifeboats in Port Townsend, WA.

To: WWWWWWWWWW who wrote (23864)	12/29/2004 1:47:58 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 90947

I didn't know that if you were a republican and a boater that it was also mandatory to have a home as well. How many marinas do they have in Montana anyway? LOL. I think Laz is promoting the idea that to vote you must also own or at least rent property with a street address. This of course would eliminate the vote for all the homeless people and all the other folks that choose a more mobile lifestyle in their boats and RVs. I have a good friend, who unfortunately is also a Bush supporter, who lives on his boat and has no home. Under Laz's rules this fellow would not be allowed to vote! The world according to Laz would be a strange and rigid world indeed. Auchtung! The guy has apparently owned a few small boats...and now fancies himself as an old salt. LOL. Even his Cal 28 couldn't fill the smallest slip at Elliot Bay. I guess that once you've stumbled up the dock a few times to empty your porta potti...you become an honorary skipper in Laz's book. LOL! I have a feeling that he's never ventured off the small pond they call the Bay. Amazing how all of this started with the fact that Rossi lost in Washington and how the fix would be to eliminate about 500 votes from people that used a mail service or a storage facility as their address. Probably about half of those 500 votes are for Rossi too! The votes have all been certified from a hand count, the most accurate and comprehensive count available to us. Now Rossi says we need a lawsuit to overturn the election, or get this a new vote! Time for Rossi to concede before he lets Vance make any more of an ass out of him. Orca