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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (57765)	12/29/2004 7:59:25 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Relatively conservative estimate in interview with Gladys Hansen. Also talks about incentives for minimizing magnitude of the disaster. sfgate.com I have read articles in the local alternative papers which put the intial total up past 5,000 (counting Chinese, travelers, etc.) Note that the fire was hot enough to leave little evidence of people. Here's a sensationalized book - scroll down through reviews to the story of pimps and hookers gettting together for a 'party' at the Old Mint building. amazon.com

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (57765)	12/29/2004 8:33:43 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Ray, you'd have been amused [or other expression] to hear King George II saying the tsunami disaster is "incomprehensible". Huh? This is the guy who has the noocular trigger at hand. If he thinks the tsunami effects are incomprehensible, he'll be really bewildered when Los Angeles [and a lot more besides around the Pacific ocean] go missing when a real tsunami comes visiting. 1 billion killed would be more like incomprehensible. 100 million is quite imaginable. That's 100,000,000 which is a thousand times worse than the current disaster. Imagine a thousand of the current tsunami, all happening at once, and spread over a MUCH wider area. Somebody in charge of a noocular button should have better comprehension. Heck, China and Russia are planning "manoeuvres" on China's territory in 2005. Maybe they mean Taiwan. King George II is going to have to make some serious decisions on "freedom". Or, maybe Taiwan doesn't have oil so what the heck - leave them to Hu Jintao's untender mercies. Freedom is more important where there's oil. Mqurice