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To: Selectric II who wrote (24907)	1/5/2005 12:52:35 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Whether or not there are mechanical glitches, they use the same objective standards, unlike people. They are not swayed by political proclivities. They don't change the rules in the middle of the game, like Democrats do. Amen. "Hand counts, when done in teams of two counters and two observers, applying crosscheck methodology, are the most accurate type of count available." Wrong. Hand counts are subject to interpretation, bias, and slight-of-hand. You are an apologist for the Florida democrat canvassing boards. Amen. "Punch cards should be outlawed, because they are subject to wear." They only wear out when they're counted and re-counted a hundred times by democrat election thieves until they come up with the "right" number. They should only need to be counted once, or twice at most. While a college freshman, my computer science class required that we write programs in Fortran, with only one line of code on each IBM punch card. It resulted in stacks of punch cards, sometimes 1-3" high, being fed into card readers. Never, ever, do I recall a punch card being mis-read, even when programs were edited and altered and the cards re-fed umpteen times while being debugged. And I took the same sort of class and will verify that. And clearly we are dealing with a technical idjit here. For complicated programs, those decks would be run through the readers dozens of times. I know a fellow that has arthritis so bad in his hands that filling out the bubbles on his absentee ballot is difficult for him as he cannot grasp the pencil well. Lots of alternatives are available, including alternate methods and voter assistance. You're raising a red herring. Amen. Some voters are blind and are still valid voters. I really liked one '00 FL canvassing board's reasoning about a ballot where both Bush and Gore were dimpled but not punched at all, and otherwise democrat. Instead of an "undervote," it was deemed a Gore vote because of the other dem votes. lol. Yeah. I remember that, among other highly questionable tactics. What amazed me is they actually had the gall to do this with a camera watching.

To: Selectric II who wrote (24907)	1/6/2005 11:03:50 AM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

The law requires that people take the necessary action to express their intent. If they can't do that despite all the alternatives, methods, and assistance, their "vote" isn't a vote at all -- it's a nullity, because they didn't express their intent. Machines sometimes do not always count correctly. Even when the ballot is filled out correctly and the voter did their job perfectly. E-voting equipment that switched votes from Kerry to Bush. Come on...you know as well as I do that machines are flawed. They can get you a first order count...and that is all. In ohio they require a 3% random hand count to check the machines...but instead of doing that they used preselected batches and cheat sheets. Now why would they do a thing like that? It's illegal...but they do it anyway. That is what you call fraud. And why does the tech come in and change out parts in the counting equipment...just before the recount check? Oh my! And never a word of wonder or protest from you...so long as the outcome of the election suits you. Orca