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To: TobagoJack who wrote (58334)1/5/2005 8:03:38 PM
From: brian h  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
"""""you preferred the Chinese to be ruled by the Japanese earlier in the century rather than pay the price that was given to have the communist in charge, all because your mom did not seem to mind.""""""

That was your words. Not mine. I preferred to have Taiwan independence (have a fight)if China Communists can not do any good.

It is OK for you to want "stability" or avoid conflicts under China control. However it is not OK for my mom to want "stability" then? You used to live in a British colonized "Hong Kong". Now you live in a China special zone "Hong Kong". What difference is it for my mom to express her opinion to be OK under Japanese colonnized Taiwan (to avoid conflicts)? I remembered many Hong Kongese flied out Hong Kong to various countries to avoid China communists.

BH



To: TobagoJack who wrote (58334)1/5/2005 8:13:47 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
<a deep cleansing, >

Jay, I recall from 45 years ago a cartoon in "A Century of Punch", which we kids learned by heart almost [the whole book] in which a soldier is cheerfully saying "Well, that certainly cleared the air" and the other guy, more thoughtfully says "And a lot more besides", as he surveyed a bombed out, destroyed landscape.

I don't think a "deep cleansing" is a good description of bulk murder. Nor does the "best party eventually win" because there is never a final finishing line. Adolf won for a while, during which time he conducted a "deep cleansing" in various concentration camps. There are simply bad, and less bad, outcomes.

In the long run, there was no "deep cleansing", just umpty millions dead, and he lost anyway, with the 1000 year Reich Rooster being turned to feather duster.

Of course we can't go back, but other outcomes at an infinite array of steps were possible. Many better outcomes were possible than Mao's mania other than Japan's cruel empire. But that's what happened. It's olde history now.

What matters now is the outcome of the Year of the Feather Duster manoeuvres "on China's territory". People can choose bulk carnage and untold human misery. Or, they can more sensibly wind back their megalomania, see what happened to previous aggressive roosters who were turned to feather dusters, and take a more circumspect approach to what they see as problems and threats.

Would you like a deep cleansing applied to Ai Li? That's what is involved with megalomaniacs going berserk with power and bombs. I doubt that you would use "deep cleansing" as an expression applied to your own family if they were, say, lined up to enter Auschwitz. I would be very unhappy if my family was deep-cleansed.

Yiwu the Mad, Vladimir, Hu and other megalomaniacs are planning to "deep cleanse" families in Taiwan because Taiwanese are not prepared to comply with Hu's megalomaniac instructions.

I suppose Russian submarines, mainland-based aircraft and war ships will patrol "Chinese territory" while China's forces conduct manoeuvres on said "Chinese territory" aka Taiwan. They will dare the USA to do anything about it and dare the Taiwanese to resist.

Japan might recover the Kuril Islands and why not Sakhalin too? South Korea might recover North Korea.

This would not be good for CDMA sales in South Korea, Japan, China or Taiwan.

Mqurice



To: TobagoJack who wrote (58334)1/5/2005 8:43:56 PM
From: brian h  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
""The thing about civil wars throughout the entirety of history, admitted all wars are awful, is that the best party eventually win.""

Then could you tell YiWu/CCP to stop complaining about US or Japan imperialism in full forces back in WWII? It was US that helped not China communists won WWII. May be you need to investigate history once again.

""What other realistic choice was on offer ?""

Stop asking questions if you would help in the progress. :-) Either China Communists kept improving or another revolution if you dare. Or you will be just like mom to say "no big deal" under Japanese rule.