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To: brian h who wrote (58337)	1/5/2005 8:23:23 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<I remembered many Hong Kongese flied out Hong Kong to various countries to avoid China communists.> I too know of some in NZ of those who fled Hong Kong, not to mention mainland China in the early 1970s by swimming for it. NZ is now the beneficiary of their talents. Our family is integrated with a bunch of Chans who made the escape. They seem to prefer living with we racist "Westerner" Kiwis in New Zealand, to being Yiwu the Mad's clones, or Hu Jintao's slaves. I notice they didn't choose Brazil to escape to. The olde British Empire [in the form of Australia and New Zealand] hold a lot of attraction. Funny that. Mqurice

To: brian h who wrote (58337)	1/5/2005 8:49:32 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello brian, You are changing the subject. But that is OK too. <<I remembered many Hong Kongese flied out Hong Kong to various countries to avoid China communists>> You are behind the times, they fly. Yes, definitely, the not-so-astute, and too-clever-by-half HKers fled, to socialism. Many have returned, only to be priced out of the home market, and many more want to return. Bummer. Such as it may, recently I am running into an unusual number of ex-HKers giving up their US citizenship. I do not offer explanations. HK seems, by the looks of matter and anti-matter, just fine. There is apparently nothing wrong with being the most economically free, financially dynamic, politically stable, and fun place on earth. And, guess what, there sure are a lot of Canadian paperholders running around in HK mingling with a bunch of Kiwi paperholders. Folks voting with their feet and wallet, I guess. I also happen to know a bunch of Trinidadians holding Canadian papers. I do not believe they are fleeing from the Trinidadian communists. I again have no explanations, other than an observation, vacuum tends to get filled, and water levels tend to even out. Molecules tends to motion. Basic physics and simple chemistry. <<OK>> ... When did I ever say anything about "it is OK ... or not OK", except when I said once upon a time, "It is OK to be child-like, but not childish". I am guessing you did not catch that. As to <<I preferred to have Taiwan independence >>, that is also OK. There just happens to be maybe 1.odd billion that prefers otherwise, that is my guess and just a guess, and so perhaps we can leave that matter to be resolved by the gentle passage of time, say perhaps 2020. Chugs, Jay