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To: StockDung who wrote (1737)	1/6/2005 8:35:44 PM
From: Janice Shell	Respond to of 5425

Pugs is well aware of that. But he prefers to ignore it, as he does anything, no matter how factual, that doesn't fit with his conspiracy theories.

To: StockDung who wrote (1737)	1/6/2005 9:42:03 PM
From: ravenseye	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 5425

I can't speak others, but I will say according to a news report by By ERIC DASH 11/09/04 it was Judge Raymond J. Dearie who said "This case has nothing to do with terrorism," he said to the jury in a planned set of instructions. "You will hear no evidence that Mr. Elgindy or others were involved in 9/11." That doesn't mean there isn't evidence! Prior to the judges instructions Mr. Cleveland had responded to Kenneth Breen that the investigation was related to "terrorism," after being asked about a mid-September 2001 F.B.I. investigation into Mr. Elgindy. ERIC DASH also reported ...Mr. Cleveland was allowed to continue with his testimony, recounting how he learned that Mr. Elgindy was a subject in a criminal investigation. Mr. Cleveland said that Jeffrey A. Royer, an F.B.I. agent who was the source of that information and a defendant in the case, told him that investigators were looking into $6 million that Mr. Elgindy had liquidated from two brokerage companies, Charles Schwab and Salomon Smith Barney, shortly before Sept. 11. Mr. Royer also relayed information that the government was examining the money Mr. Elgindy gave to Mercy International, which Mr. Breen described as a "Middle Eastern charity." Mr. Royer promised to "keep an eye" on the case, Mr. Cleveland testified, "and as new things came out, he would let me know." .... suite101.com Mr Breen the prosecutor must have some solid information to say money was given to Mercy International, and specifically stated it was a MIDDLE EASTERN charity. I personally wouldn't give more credence to a news item dated May 2002 than current court records. That is a big gap of time, May 2002 to November 2004, and I bet there has been more information found, and I feel confident that Mr Breen knows more than you!

To: StockDung who wrote (1737)	1/7/2005 2:38:31 AM
From: Louie_al-Arouri	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 5425

On behalf of Pugs, Tony loudly proclaimed on SI, where he took in donations, to the MOther Teresa Humanitarian Orginization, a KLA operated Al-Qeada relief front in he Balkans. THe Chicago Tribune reported that Tony got Spencer Abraham to assist him in getting hi-level KLA members, like Rexhep Hoti, into the USA, financed by SI members donations. Seems Al-Arian's AMC was a campaign contributor of Abraham's. Khaled Elgindy contributed to AMC congressional reports with Islamic Jihad leader Sami Al-Arian's daughter, Laila. I'm sure it wasn't Pugs who first informed you of Tony's father's relationship with global terrorist Muhammad Salah. In fact, Ibrahim Elgindy set-up a web of fronts to for SAlah to finance terrorism. I guess, according to you & the webfraud3 we all have these kinds of tie to terrorism, that it? LMFAO! The "inquiry" can use whatever info was netted in the racketeering case to bring forward counts in a terrorism trial. You must be living on a different planet if you think pugs, and pugs alone, has noted Tony's ties to terrorist factions. --------------- TRIAL'S 9/11 TWIST ...But during cross-examination, Royer admitted other agents had told him Elgindy was actually a suspect in the terror probe — and that he still leaked protected FBI information to a close associate of the stock genius. ---------------------- TRIAL'S 9/11 TWIST By KATI CORNELL SMITH January 4, 2005 A former FBI agent, defending himself against charges he stole law-enforcement information to commit stock fraud, tried to turn the tables yesterday with a wild claim he could have prevented 9/11 if he was allowed do his job. Jeffrey Royer testified that early in 2001, his supervisors overreacted to a problem with an informant, and shut down a probe of a smuggling ring with ties to Hamas that had exploited security weaknesses on an Indian reservation bordering Canada. "I shelved it. C'est la vie," Royer, who retired from the FBI on Dec. 25, 2001, said flippantly. "Then 9/11 happened." The ex-agent told his lawyer, Lawrence Gerzog, that "the bureau had messed up" by taking the heat off a corrupt Customs official who could have helped terrorists enter the United States. Royer made the bizarre assertion as he denied charges that he helped stock guru Anthony "Pacific" Elgindy manipulate the market. Royer and Elgindy are co-defendants in the Brooklyn federal court trial. Royer claimed Elgindy needed confidential information to perform his work as an FBI informant — and credited him with launching several important probes, including one of suspicious stock trades on Sept. 10, 2001. But during cross-examination, Royer admitted other agents had told him Elgindy was actually a suspect in the terror probe — and that he still leaked protected FBI information to a close associate of the stock genius. Elgindy is on trial for using information about investigations into various companies to commit stock fraud and extortion — but has not been charged with any terror-related crime. Asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Seth Levine if he knew he was violating his official oath by dispensing confidential law-enforcement information without permission, Royer said he was not in "junior high" and enjoyed "autonomy" as an agent. "I told them I would protect and serve the Constitution of the United States," Royer said bluntly. "I didn't say I would follow the rules of the FBI." nypost.com ------------ "That inquiry found nothing connecting Mr. Elgindy with terrorist groups or their financing," Yet pugs insists Elgindy was tied to terrorist groups