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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (58690)1/10/2005 7:09:29 PM
From: microhoogle!  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Dining out for centuries on ancestors' past glories is pretty weak. It's what they do today that matters, not what somebody did centuries ago, who was only partly related to the current populations claiming "credit", as though they can claim credit.

IMO, both matter. Everyone can and should take pride on ancestors glory since that pride manifests in the posterity to excel to achieve that kind of glory.

However, you are right - we can't tell people that "my ancestors used to eat caviar now you smell my mouth" to bask on that glory.

PS: Replace Caviar with more appropriate and most expensive food item. It just doesn't fit in this saying that I literally translated from a different language.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (58690)1/10/2005 7:23:57 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Fair enough. Every human being starts afresh. Get rid of property rights. Why pass down the ancestor's property? Donate them into a common pool. Many inheritors are dining on their ancestor's past glories...

>Dining out for centuries on ancestors' past glories is pretty weak. It's what they do today that matters, not what somebody did centuries ago, who was only partly related to the current populations claiming "credit", as though they can claim credit.

Similarly, the credit for horrors conducted ages ago ancestors should remain with the ancestors, and can't really be claimed by the now-living half-caste descendants. Germans today can't really claim credit for Auschwitz, or Beethoven. Neither was anything to do with them [though there might be a few still-living guilty parties in regard to Auschwitz who haven't been caught].

Being "proud" of what we haven't done seems silly to me. Similarly, feeling guilty for what we haven't done is daft.>



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (58690)1/12/2005 4:45:25 PM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>My point is that the achievements of long ago were not really a big deal. There's a tendency these days to think of people hacking flint into shape and figuring out some geometry as being the equivalent of today's brilliant people. Nutting out CDMA or E=mc2 and doing quantum tunnelling is obviously much more difficult. It's like me being able to repair a 1953 Hillman and BSA Bantam Major, but looking in bewilderment at a Y2K Lexus engine's intricacies.<<

Mq, here's a damn good achievement from long ago...

Ancient Astronomer's Work Found on Roman Statue
Tue Jan 11, 7:29 PM ET Science - Reuters
story.news.yahoo.com