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To: Grainne who wrote (93121)	1/10/2005 7:18:01 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I saw The Magdalene Sisters. It was a terribly sad movie. It was so touching when that brother finally came to get his sister.

To: Grainne who wrote (93121)	1/10/2005 8:27:50 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Let me bring it to your attention that X has been rather abusive of Jewel today. Maybe a tad bit of thread hygiene is in order, this being such an orderly thread. I did not exactly say the Irish are undersexed. No, but you certainly did imply it. This does, of course, raise the interesting question of how one person can know this of an entire nation of people. Or is simple prejudice at work? You think an Irish husband protects you from that charge? Emile claims his wife is Jewish. My own opinion is that in many, many ways, the effects of Irish Catholicism have been disastrous on the spirit of the Irish. It may have helped them too. Had you thought of that? It certainly appears to have helped them hold together as a nation against the English and Scottish Protestants. If you wish to try to make a case that religion is strictly a curse, you may try. I think you have your cut out for you, though. You yourself could read up on the statistics about late marriage among the Irish. The reading I've done attributes that to poverty. ANd maybe with increasing prosperity it is disappearing. The age of females at first marriage has also been increasing, and in 1990 averaged 26.6 years. This is a reversal of the trend evident between 1960 and 1979 when the average age of females marrying for the first time declined from just over 27 years to 24 years. enfo.ie Another interesting topic would be why Catholicism seemed to make Irish men shy of women Did it? On what basis do you say that? but had the exact opposite effect on the Italians Hmmm. Maybe it didn't. Or maybe, if that bald generalization about an entire nation is true, something else is at work. But these are all generalizations. That I will agree with. With no backing evidence. Perhaps it has something to do not only with the influence of the Church, but with schools and family values? As I said. Other influences. If true. FIRST you show it's true. THEN you inquire into cause. And did the oppression of Ireland by England on top of its Catholicism just become too much to bear? Is that the difference, then? What does THAT mean? They bore it. They are still with us. You seem rather willing to ascribe characteristics to entire peoples. Do you think most Muslims are terrorists because a few are?