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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (156313)	1/14/2005 7:55:38 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

< We'll see if Abu Mazen can take any steps to end the cult of Palesitinian victimhood and irresponsibility.> If there are any people on the face of the earth with a bigger case of "victimhood" complex than Israelis, I have yet to see it. This is a case of the kettle calling the pot "black".

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (156313)	1/18/2005 8:36:34 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It is rather frustrating. First, the indigenous model is not applicable, the territories belonged to successive states, and were at last administered by the British on behalf of the League of Nations/UN. Second, even if the indigenous model applied, it is only to acknowledge a vacuum, which was filled by the UN, until the Arabs decided to reject their solution and resort to arms. Either way, Arab rejectionism created the refugee problem, and the continued hostility made return impossible. One of the problems with informal claims is exemplified in the compensation mess. Few records exist to vindicate claims to property. It is not primarily a matter of the ravages of war, it is mostly a failure to systematically file records in the first place. The fact that Arabic is spoken from the borders of Iraq to West Africa indicates not the expansion of the Indigenous, but the imposition of the Imperial, and Arabic nationalism is predicated on a return to the glory of the Caliphate. The Palestinian Question has to do with the reassertion of Arab Imperialism in the territories of North Africa and the Middle East.