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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (59456)	1/26/2005 5:41:43 AM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Ray, it's a question of time and scale. The melting due to climate change in the last 250 years is insignificant compared to the potential melting of the remaining ice. To put it in perspective, if the Greenland and Antarctica ice sheets both melt then worldwide sea levels will rise 80 meters and inundate many of the major cities in the world! So Mq and I are both arguing that the current melting is too trivial to support Taikun's theory that global warming caused the recent Sumatra earthquake. Where Mq and I disagree is on the potential rate of future ice sheet melting. He thinks it would take thousands of years, and that humans would have plenty of time to adapt. I'm more open to the idea of sudden rapid melting, severe climate disruption, and total chaos during my own lifetime. Organisms wreck their own environments all the time, and I don't see why humans should be exempt.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (59456)	1/26/2005 8:35:26 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<Greenland ice-melt 'speeding up'> Now going at 150 miles an hour and looking like Niagara Falls and the Amazon? I dare say the Greenlanders will be happy to have a bit less ice in the vicinity, though they'll have to wait a while to whittle away the kilometres thick ice. They should not order construction of tropical resorts just yet. Mqurice

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (59456)	1/26/2005 8:54:46 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<Melting ice in Greenland [which it isn't doing] is insignificant to a plate tectonic shift along the Southern Alps.> Ray, I'm not really surprised if Greenland's kilometres of ice is melting. There was a vast glaciation which has been wound back for about 10,000 years, but more to go, such as Greenland's ice and the less significant glaciers in New Zealand. That's not of great significance globally, though that much extra water slopping around would cause a minor sea level rise [though nothing compared with the regular tsunamis of which people are now a bit more aware]. Either way, Greenland's runoff didn't cause the tsunami. That was done by the CIA according to Yiwu the Mad's post, backed up by Bubba the Clone's automatic agreement. Mqurice