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To: Ilaine who wrote (97341)	1/28/2005 12:42:53 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793739

And I don't want to draft any unwilling American men or women on the basis of a pretext, or for any purpose other than the existential needs of their own country which ultimately preserves their own wellbeing. How would you define existential?

To: Ilaine who wrote (97341)	1/28/2005 12:44:39 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793739

I don't believe that people should be coerced into serving the interests of others. The notion of a draft has a fatal flaw, I think. If we are facing a compelling threat, then plenty of people would sign up to fight and we wouldn't need a draft. If we need a draft, then it means that the interests we are serving are not recognized as ours by of a sufficient number of us, which makes a draft immoral.

To: Ilaine who wrote (97341)	1/28/2005 9:59:45 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793739

CB...It would be my guess is that this bothers a lot of us as well. Problem is at least twofold, IMO.... 1) How do we not know that there isn't any real effort being made to get at the source/sources of the false info....? Do you think the government can tell us all they know, or are trying to figure out, without telling those who have said they want to do us harm, more info than they need? and 2) Since the MSM hasn't told us many things accurately that we need to know, what would make us think, or the government think, the MSM would do a better job this time. (For example, CBS/Dan Rather and CNN/Eason Jordan/Saddam'sIraq, and many more examples....) The thing that bothers me, to this day, is that there doesn't appear to be any real effort being made to get at the source of the false intelligence. This bothers me, and I know I am not alone, although I am well aware that it's an unpopular opinion among Bush supporters.

To: Ilaine who wrote (97341)	1/28/2005 10:25:51 PM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793739

Several people have suggested options other than the draft, e.g., yesterday I suggested that the new Iraqi government might institute its own draft. The Iraqi government does not need a draft. At least not yet. They have many many times more volunteers than they need. Their problems are a lack of training facilities, instructors and military equipment for the soldiers they are training.

To: Ilaine who wrote (97341)	1/29/2005 2:08:06 AM
From: LindaSawyer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793739

I was opposed to the draft then, and am opposed to it now, for philosophical reasons. I am a libertarian, I don't believe that people should be coerced into serving the interests of others. There's also the other side (or maybe another portion of the same side) of the philosophical anti-draft coin: There are those (libertarians among them) who believe that a nation/culture that cannot succeed in recruiting sufficient volunteers to defend it and its foundations doesn't deserve defending. tj