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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (216833)	2/2/2005 1:46:43 AM
From: Elroy	Respond to of 1571200

The reality is that every increase in any human being's freedom improves the lives of every other human being ever so slightly. Oh no no no no no. Every increase in freedom improves the lives of the proletariat. We bourgoise suffer as we are less able to exploit the working proletariat folks! As the Chinese get more and more freedom and entrance to world markets, the $32/hour General Motors plant worker in Michigan becomes a $31/hour and then $30/hour worker. His value declines as the Chinese get "more free". In other words, freedom for the currently non-free laborers doesn't help the exploiters of that labor, or the people that benefit from having the non-free worker not in the labor pool. Think of the basic idea of the plantation owner in Georgia in 1859. How was his life better in 1869 when he had to pay all his workers rather than just feed and house them? You be falling for the rhetoric!

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (216833)	2/2/2005 3:23:51 PM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 1571200

RE: "Freedom is kind of like deposits at a bank. the reserve ratio allows banks to leverage the money into multiples for lending. Freedom precedes prosperity." Does this brand of 'freedom' precede financial bankruptcy?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (216833)	2/2/2005 10:07:22 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571200

I agree. Nothing galls me more than people saying that some race or religion isn't compatible with democracy and freedom, or saying that we are "imposing" democracy or freedom on some group of people. Democracy and freedom are as much an imposition on people as fresh air to breathe is. I think that line of thinking is so unforgiveably bigotted.