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To: RetiredNow who wrote (216964)	2/2/2005 11:21:18 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571259

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. It sounds like our forefathers believed in freedom. I am glad one of our parties still does. You go, George W. Bush.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (216964)	2/3/2005 12:48:00 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571259

Nothing galls me more than people saying that some race or religion isn't compatible with democracy and freedom Well, whether it galls you or not, a strict interpretation of most religions WILL BE at odds with democracy and freedom. For example, if the pope says condoms are against Catholic rules, but the nation-state says condoms are legal, how do you get around that? The manufacture, distribution and usage of condoms is AGAINST the religion, but the democratically elected legislators allow them. Supporting the democratic nation state's rules results in anti-religious laws. The only way to avoid that outcome is to have the religious leaders make the laws, but that's not the structure of the modern day nation-state system. That's why Nietschze said "God is dead", I believe.