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To: Joe NYC who wrote (217364)	2/4/2005 5:42:27 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1576421

RE: "The same gang had similar cozy relationship with Clinton administration, basically, anybody in power." True. Hillary had her $1k call options turn into $100k after investing in some chicken company where she had talked to the ceo that was a friend of hers. (You don't do call options in a company where you are friends with the ceo, or its officers or BODs !!!) The head of DNC committee (forgot his name, Terry something), certainly got involved in Global Crossing in an atypical way - in a way that no other comm investor has entered into an early stage deal. In a nutshell, our govt leaders are corrupt. Ironically, Bush said he doesn't want "people in America to feel isolated from opportunity." The average Joe in beltland is going to look at Bush (and the govt) over the past few years and see something different - they will judge the govt by their actions not by their words and see a connection to corruption. It's ironic that our govt leaders gain money through what's called "access rights money" from people wanting to gain influence with the govt. Look no further than even Bush's brother - the first millions he got from China - "access rights". Or Hillary's call options, or Terry's Global Crossing, or Bush's first million (his Dad talked to a company that bought a company with no IP, bleeding red, but happened to have Bush Jr as a board member and the buying company needed oil access rights from his Dad to influence), or how Bush looked the other way with Enron until it was too obvious to ignore, etc. Doesn't matter which party, the govt leaders actions imply they are corrupt. Probably the worse I ever recall in my lifetime. Ford didn't try to extract hundreds of thousands of dollars to "talk" at some banking institution. And at least Carter didn't take a $10 million dollar book contract. Even Nixon didn't try to extract millions for himself personally. The Presidents back then weren't so unethical that they used their position to gain money. Carter has recently criticized this when Clinton inappropriately did this. But you know what, the neocons (subset of Republican party) tried to bankrupt the Clintons thru lawsuits so what choice did they have? Corruption has shifted from minor low level stuff to more top leadership corruption. And that's more dangerous to this country. Maybe that's the markings of a country that will eventually go downhill. Hard to say. But there's certainly no movement to clean it up and I hear Gen Ys have a reputation for cheating in school more than the previous generation so am expecting things to get worse. One of our best high schools here discovered 50% of them cheating, so what can a person say about that? Regards, Amy J

To: Joe NYC who wrote (217364)	2/4/2005 5:54:38 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1576421

I guess Iraq is not considered defense, it must be considered offense? Bush to Seek $419.3 Billion for Defense By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) will ask Congress for $419.3 billion for the Pentagon (news - web sites) for next year, 4.8 percent more than this year's spending as the administration seeks to beef up and reshape the Army and Marine Corps for fighting terrorism. The request will not include money for wars in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites). Congress already has appropriated $25 billion for those this year, and the White House is planning to request another $80 billion soon. story.news.yahoo.com