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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60289)2/11/2005 11:27:32 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Mary, as you say, great thinkers think that peace is the answer [along with a few other things to give life a bit more than heavenly bliss]:

A peace-loving great thinker I know said: <I'm hopeful that CDMA's anodyne soothing vibe will resonate around the world, defusing the fevered brows, creating peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, fun and love. >

<Who are you guys to decide who is bad enough that you have to kill?>

That's an easy question.

Scientifically, the five fundamental forces of fairness and freedom = 5f, define my right to defend myself against mean-minded marauding murderous megalomaniacs = 5m, as innate natural law. The maths is 5m + 5f = 10mf [mf = mind freedom, or something different in nigga rap = mudda fudda. The peculiar quantum weirdness duality of the universe is that both meanings can coexist simultaneously and it's only AFTER the event that we find out who was who, defined by the observer, which by definition is the people still alive, called the victors].

In less scientific terms, in the patois of the patriots, the lingo of the locals, the colloquialism of the colloquy, the idiom of the indigent, the .... [hmm, can't think of another one but you get the drift], when the bastards are coming to get you, you had better defend yourself or they will give you insults like "your mother's flesh sticks between my teeth" [I read in cyberspace the other day] meaning in cannibal circles, "I've eaten your mother and that's how much of a loser you are". In Maoridom they would process the losers' heads, smoking and shrinking them, as ornaments, tormenting the slaves with the remnants of their loved ones. They would also eat losers as they desired.

There are actually people like those, and plenty of them, [including women - right here we have Yiwu the Mad, for example], who came up with The Final Solution and My Lai as ways of disposing of the problem people, or destroying the village to save it. It's no use saying "But I'm just a child, please couldn't I just go outside to play?" The evil doers tell you to go and have a shower along with everyone else, or simply disassemble your body with various devices. It's no use saying "But we are peace lovers and signed up for Peace in Our Time, so please can't your Panzers get off my face?" The "comfort women" for the Japanese weren't asked whether they wanted the job. That's the nature of evil-doers.

While persuasion and diplomacy are good ideas and a fair-minded evil-doer might decide that it's time for It and peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, longevity, fun and love, all too many megalomaniacs seem determined that they be the boss, as though the alpha male drive is bolted right into the bottom of their limbic system and it's all or nothing. Unfortunately, nothing is what a LOT of people get, including the megalomaniac, all too often.

So, if I don't want to be a cannibal's livestock, I'd better grab a club or something and stand by to fend them off. Even if they don't want to eat me, there are plenty who want to enslave me. In fact, it's over half the population, as demonstrated by voting patterns around the world and the extorquerationate taxation they forcibly extract for their own ends, not mine.

Now you have the answer to <<Who are you guys to decide who is bad enough that you have to kill?> >

Scientifically speaking,
Mqurice

PS: Google is Great. Here's a link to mother's flesh stuck between teeth: sustainability.bastish.net



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60289)2/11/2005 11:51:08 AM
From: energyplay  Respond to of 74559
 
It worked with the American Indians...



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60289)2/11/2005 12:31:16 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 74559
 
Speak of the devil: news.scotsman.com People who escaped were executed. People are the property of the powerful in North Korea and escape is not permitted.

What are you supposed to do in such circumstances? Just accept being killed? Live as a slave obeying the megalomaniacs?

Mqurice



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (60289)2/12/2005 4:16:39 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Mary,

Thanks for your provocative and refreshing post.

Re: The world should unite and not let "little boys" play games that have consequences for a lot of people.

"The world" would be well advised to try to take back the media which is being used as a bully-pulpit by some very scurrilous corporadoes to brainwash the gullible.

I watch something like "Chris Hume's Road Trip"
truthout.org
and I realize that the sort of mass hysteria described by the recently deceased playwright, Arthur Miller, in "The Crucible" is alive and unwell in America today.

Hume has done us a great service. He's making it quite apparent that the average American is superstitious, xenophobic, ill-informed and pretty darn illogical.

Jay and Maurice seem to be benign and sage observers compared to some of the maniacs who infest the Republican Party here in the U.S. and who are deliberately stirring the pot of Know-Nothingness.

***
As to your list of "little boy" leaders, I couldn't agree more about the necessity for real human beings to stand up to these petty tyrants and prevaricators. The world is far too precious and fragile to be in the hands of such unscrupulous manipulators.

The pity of it is that at least in America, the weak-minded think they're smart, and the smart are resigned to the fact that they're outnumbered.