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To: LindyBill who wrote (100106)	2/12/2005 10:03:50 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793797

says the law school environment, and not affirmative action, suppresses the grades of some law students. That "law school environment" includes the general knowledge that black students have a lower bar for admission and are in general less qualified, does it not? Don't you think this general knowledge might affect the expectations of professors and fellow students?

To: LindyBill who wrote (100106)	2/13/2005 11:35:44 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793797

Professor Sander's study tests a simple, but startling, thesis: Affirmative action actually depresses the number of black lawyers, because many black students end up attending law schools that are too difficult for them, and perform badly Unless they're going to Yale or Harvard, it's better to be in the top 20-30% of a 2nd-4th tier school than the bottom quarter of a 1st tier. The firms cull the top 30% or so, and government seems to look at top 30% too. They'll flunk out, or go work on the phone at Lexis Nexis or Westlaw. Derek