To: Peter Dierks who wrote (672330 ) 2/15/2005 4:21:19 PM From: Cogito Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 >>Nobody is ramming this through quickly. We are discussing a solution that will add ten, fifteen, twenty or more years to the sustainability of an out of control train wreck of a federal program. Those who think the answer is to pay more out of the existing system had better hope that generation-X never gets control of government. You can agree to disagree that there is an impending problem. Unfortunately, for your side Clinton destroyed your plausible deniability. Democrats signed on to his addressing the issue, but now that a Republican is trying to fix it Democrats are against any solution. Do you think anyone would be fooled when is suddenly became a priority in a Democrat administration. The American public is not as stupid as you all think they are.<< Peter - First, I never said there is no impending problem. Nobody is saying that. Democrats are not "against any solution". The President has, so far, come up with only one proposal with respect to Social Security, and it is not a proposal that will add any years of sustainability to the program. Instead, it will hasten the time when SS pays out more than it takes in. If the President actually comes up with a solution, we could talk about that. I think he's playing politics. He floats a proposal that doesn't really deal with the issue at all, because the only solutions that do deal with the problem involve either a) increasing taxes, b) reducing benefits, or c) borrowing money. None of these options are going to be popular. What Bush has done by not offering any real solution at all is to create a situation where somebody else has to propose the real, unpopular solution. I believe he hopes the Democrats will do it. Then he won't be in the position of proposing something that's unpopular or distasteful. This is a typical Karl Rove kind of political strategy. - Allen