To: Cogito who wrote (672333 ) 2/16/2005 9:48:02 AM From: Peter Dierks Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667 I never said there is no impending problem. Nobody is saying that. Democrats are not "against any solution". The President has, so far, come up with only one proposal with respect to Social Security, and it is not a proposal that will add any years of sustainability to the program. Instead, it will hasten the time when SS pays out more than it takes in. If the President actually comes up with a solution, we could talk about that. I think he's playing politics. He floats a proposal that doesn't really deal with the issue at all, because the only solutions that do deal with the problem involve either a) increasing taxes, b) reducing benefits, or c) borrowing money. None of these options are going to be popular. What Bush has done by not offering any real solution at all is to create a situation where somebody else has to propose the real, unpopular solution. I believe he hopes the Democrats will do it. Then he won't be in the position of proposing something that's unpopular or distasteful. This is a typical Karl Rove kind of political strategy. - Allen So if I understand you, your idea is that President Bush or the Republicans have to propose solutions until you find one that is ok with you. Democrats are absolved of any responsibility for presenting ideas? Being an editor is much easier than being an author. The way the political system generally works is either one person suggests such a brilliant idea that everyone instantly agrees that it is perfect (yah right), or the sides haggle over competing visions for the solution. Your side of the eisle has yet to forward a counterproposal. Thus, the only proposal under discussion is President Bush's. It is the best proposal I hae heard from any politician to solve the problem.