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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (672794)	2/19/2005 5:01:47 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

If you looked at a history of the earths history, you'd realize how futile it is trying to control the earth's temperature by reducing CO2 emissions. Of course, just because something is futile, doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted. Converting from natural gas to nuclear power (for electricity) and from internal combustion to hybrid vehicles is probably a very good idea. "...a new study shows the Sun's radiation has increased by .05 percent per decade since the late 1970s..." space.com "...An increase of just 0.2% in the solar output could have the same affect as doubling the carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere..." solar-center.stanford.edu "...Recordings from a volcano-top observatory, NOAA's Mauna Loa Observatory on Hawaii, showed carbon dioxide levels had risen to an average of about 376 parts per million (ppm) for 2003...When the US team started recording atmospheric carbon dioxide in the late 1950s, levels were around 315 ppm and have risen ever since...." newscientist.com

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (672794)	2/19/2005 5:29:52 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Kenneth, You realize of course, that the reason Greenland is called Greenland, is that Greenland was indeed "green" - when it was discovered by the Vikings. re: "Great Britain will get colder as global warming increases because the ice melt from Greenland will divert the warm ocean current which currently warms Great Britain."

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (672794)	2/19/2005 6:12:03 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769670

A little problem for you: elmhurst.edu Click on the bottom graph in this link to enlarge it. Then explain to me that temperature rise that started about 150,000 years ago. Was it because cave men has an industrial revolution under way and were releasing greenhouse gases? Most pundits suporting the global warming theory pick out the last 100-200 years to look at. Yet it is CLEAR that in fact the current warming started about 15,000 years ago- -almost 15,000 years before the industrial revolution and about 5,000 years before the development of any sort of civilization. How do you explain that? Have you considered the possibility you might be wrong? Have you considered the effects the changes the global warming advocates will have? How about 50% unemployment? How about revolution? How about wars? Has the simple thought occurred to you that you had best be D***ED certain about what you are doing before you undertake this?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (672794)	2/19/2005 7:00:43 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769670

Look at this. Look particularly at Figure 3. Now try again. chatham.edu