To: tejek who wrote (219953 ) 2/20/2005 7:58:02 PM From: Peter Dierks Respond to of 1573824 You are making a rather biased assumption......and its not the first time you've done it. You are suggesting that the longer a person teaches the worse he/she gets. Message 21061328 You are responding to one comment not the body of my comments. Since this post I have commented that other than our school's two new hires, every other teacher has been their over ten years. The longest tenure is a Kindergarten teacher who has been their almost 35. Our children are very fortunate to have had her. am not disputing there are bad teachers in their 50s who should get out......but that's true of any profession......and its also true of some 20 somethings who are just out of school. Last year, there was one teacher where I student taught who had been out of school for only two years. From my perspective, she was not good with the kids........she was impatient, facile, and arrogant. Another teacher with whom I worked under had been teaching for over 15 years. She was excellent.....and the grades and demeanor of her classes reflected her abilities. I don't think age and tenure play as big a role as you seem to think. You are very perceptive. You have said that it takes time to learn to become organized in the profession. Most professionals in any field who agree that it is the case in their fields. You also observed that with younger children childlike behavior keeps the kids involved in learning. Another excellent observation. Perhaps you have been taught this in college, but I choose to believe that you are very perceptive and have a great potential for educating. The interesting thing is that many people start in the wrong career. I worked with a young lady in while she was in Education College. She worked with me in an accounting office. She had great potential as a bookkeeper. She wanted to teach. She was very fortunate that she was found a job in an accounting office at a school district. She could have spent several years frustrated with students that would benefit from someone more suited to teaching. The point I have been trying to make is that the way that markets correct imbalances would be effective in teaching too. If you test and eliminate the ones who are not qualified to teach, the shortages will cause wages to rise. The higher wages will increase the supply of applicants, and the testing will cull out those not qualified, keeping the supply low. The higher the standards you require in the profession, the higher the wages for those who pass the muster. To argue that just increasing wages is futile. Taxpayers expect higher standards to justify higher taxes. Many people will just ignore the request.