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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: PartyTime who wrote (37856)2/21/2005 7:40:41 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
I would say you are missing the point but it looks like you got it ... even so, you just don't get it. Or maybe its just, 'rah rah blue and a booo booo red' and the reasons dont really matter when all is said and done ... for some poor folk anyway.



To: PartyTime who wrote (37856)2/21/2005 9:28:36 AM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
The GOP platform has not been anti-gay.

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LOL. One would have to wonder why the president made a huge deal of supporting an amendment to the Constitution which would ban gay marriage, if in fact the GOP is not anti-gay.

I think from the perspective of gays, this is seen as anti-gay. But somehow from the perspective of republicans it's seen as pro-gay. From the mount...looking down on the poor gay sots who know not what is best for themselves...we need to look after them like a flock of sheep. This is not anti-gay...but pro-gay in the sense that "we" know what is best for you.

You see if you were to marry the person that you love, it would send the wrong message to the world, that homosexual marriage is the norm. That would tear down the institution of marriage. And that would be bad for America. And what is bad for America is bad for gays.

So we are anti-gay marriage, but "we" are pro-gay, as evidenced by the selection of gay prostitutes as Whitehouse correspondents. Gannon has "stood up" for America, and we have the evidence of that at hotmilitarystud.com. Don't you think it's time that we all "got behind" our gay republican friends?

Orca



To: PartyTime who wrote (37856)2/21/2005 10:14:11 AM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 173976
 
I think that one thing that is coming clearer everyday is that there are many gay republicans. There is this notion that all gays are liberals, but I would argue that gays are statistically evenly spread between conservatives and liberals.

Those gay souls that are also given to a conservative calling find themselves in a particular bind. Many of their conservative brethren loathe homosexuality. Often they loathe it to cover their own latent homosexual tendencies.

Thus conservative gays have to tread the back alleys of internet advertising, escorts and "foreign travel". They cannot come out of the closet, because if they do they will be scorned. So they remain in hiding...not even the Secret Service can find them out...but if they learned how to Google...they'd be much more effective. But maybe they don't want to know either!

So while the conservatives like to point at progressives as the "gay party", the truth is that both parties have gays in equal numbers. The conservative gays are still living in fear of being found out, while liberal gays have simply allowed themselves to be who they are.

Now as the recent tapes

nytimes.com

reveal about Bush, the question of how to portray his politics to his base with regard to gays is a political calculation. In order to keep the evangelical base faithful he has to kick gays a bit. But not too hard as it goes against Bush's own admission of being a sinner. He who is without sin cast the first stone...but hey...nothing wrong with a pebble right?

Orca