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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (37870)	2/21/2005 10:48:46 AM
From: Threshold	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

GOP... the Gay Old Party Are we going to see the closet door open and a tsunami of former homo haters surfing the wave. Too funny.

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (37870)	2/21/2005 2:23:48 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

"gays are statistically evenly spread between conservatives and liberals" ======== Well if it turns out that the head of the RNC is gay while the head of the DNC is a monogamous family man.....lands sakes alive! Those dang Republican homosexuals will soon be infiltrating our schools, boy scouts and might even show up in the gov'ment. What will those red staters do next? ROTFLMAO. It just goes to show that everyone is thoroughly mixed up: CoChair of the RNC is prochoice At least one guy who ran for DNC chair is antichoice At least one guy who ran for DNC chair now works for Fox Cheneys are anti the gay marriage ammendment Cheneys daughter is gay and sports a wedding ring Edwards and Kerry and Bush are anti gay marriage Republicans love money but hate mega millionaire Kerry Republicans love money but hate mega billionaire Soros Republicans love capitalism but hate mega millionaire Moore Clinton only did pot and never inhaled Bush did both pot and coke and definitely inhaled Jewish conservatives support Islamic government with close ties to Iran GO FIGURE Is anyone telling the truth about anything even to themselves?

To: Orcastraiter who wrote (37870)	2/21/2005 8:22:23 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

>>Those gay souls that are also given to a conservative calling find themselves in a particular bind. Many of their conservative brethren loathe homosexuality. Often they loathe it to cover their own latent homosexual tendencies.<< I think you oversimplify the issue. I view homosexuality as loathsome, just from what I know about nature and because I know it is displeasing to God. I don't loathe homosexuals. I also don't loathe liars or thieves. The issue boils down to 1) whether or not the state should promote or discourage certain behavior and 2) whether or not special rights that have been afforded others -- whether such special rights should be afforded homosexuals. re 1) For years homosexuality, the practice of sodomy, was believe to be abhorent and laws precluded it. So the idea that the behavior is OK -- whether you base it on statistics or whatever you base it on -- is a relatively new. Statistically speaking there are a number of people who commit incest or engage in other forms of deviant behavior. Such behaviors are thought to be abhorrent, even is the people involved are old enough to be engaging in something that is consensual. So the idea that a certain number participate in an activity or that it is consensual does not make it right. re 2) From a strictly libertarian POV I would make a number of observations. First, married people (I mean heterosexuals or what I call those who choose normal sexual functions based on the ability to procreate) shouldn't be treated as a special class of people. Why should the state favor a married person over a single person in any matter as relates to the law -- especially tax law or rules concerning inheritance!! The state, in its legitimate capacity, has no interest in preferring someone being single over someone being married. Homosexuals are seeking 2 things it appears to me. Someone to give them a stamp of "legitimacy" for the lifestyle that they have chosen and someone who will advocate or promulgate their lifestyle. Again, the state has no legitimate interest in this or preferring that a person marry or not marry. The other thing that homosexuals are seeking is expansion of regulations that already exist concerning normal marriage partners, that favor these over single persons. I would contend that folks should have the right to bequeath property and not be subject to taxation on it period. As to whether or not companies provide insurance or other perks to those who have chosen any free assocation with -- or a relation to an employee -- this should be strictly up to the employer. I am not a homophobe. I just regard it as wrong. Doesn't mean I haven't done wrong or that I hate them as a class of people.