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Gold/Mining/Energy : PEAK OIL - The New Y2K or The Beginning of the Real End? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (117)	2/21/2005 11:29:18 AM
From: kryptonic6	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1183

You really do need to wake up to the catastrophe that over-population is creating. Out of everyone on this board, I believe I'm the only one that has discussed the billions that will inevitably die when hydrocarbon-based food production collapses. If I follow your silly logic See above. My only logic is that there's no justification for holocausting people or employing a eugenics program, which is what you seemed to be hinting at when you declared that some people are "surplus" and "useless". I agree that the planet is overpopulated and I don't know if there is a humane solution. A century of endless and miserable war lies ahead. Absolutely - and the resource wars have already started in Afghanistan and Iraq following the Government orchestrated 9/11 attacks. Is that what you want to live with? Desire is irrelevant. There is nothing anyone can do at this point to stop it. Even if you holocausted half the people on this globe next month, it would only put off the crash by a couple decades at most. This is a problem for which there is no "solution". Industrial civilization will collapse. The American Empire will literally run out of gas and collapse. Billions will die around the globe when hydrocarbon food production collapses and they don't have food to eat. In fact, you have been the one denying the most realistic collapse scenarios (which makes your last post puzzling): "Re: Thus, the age/era of our growth-based economic system must also end very soon after we peak, since economic growth is impossible without increasing energy availability. "It ain't necessarily so." :)" Unfortunately, it is necessarily so, and you know it. There are plenty of alternatives, but they simply don't cut the meat, and there simply isn't enough time to make any significant transition (and there simply isn't the social or political will to do so). And our growth-based economic system simply cannot survive 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, and 70% energy shortages, which is what we'll be facing in the next few decades due to hydrocarbon depletion. Always remember: Our situation is so desperate that our leaders felt they had nothing to lose by murdering 3,000 of their own citizens on 9/11. The crash is already underway.