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To: GST who wrote (158286)2/21/2005 12:00:19 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Clinton was a better President that Bush has proven to be -- substantially better on the economy -- but he had the character of a greased weasel in heat."

Nice turn of phrase, that. But at the end of the day, does it really matter what policies a President without character has? Clinton's adversaries despised him, and even his allies didn't trust him. So he couldn't get much of anything done. He spent all his political genius digging himself out of the holes that he had got himself into.



To: GST who wrote (158286)2/21/2005 12:53:40 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
"...greased weasel in heat."

This is funny.
Have you noted the clinton family/bush family lovefest now intergenerational going on worldwide. I can see the advantages for the clintons carving out the Center while having at least the good will of the left. And for Bush maybe some key support on FP and maybe even on SS and other issues. Whata country. Mike



To: GST who wrote (158286)2/21/2005 5:20:04 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"When Clinton said he didn't inhale he completely flunked the most basic character test IMO."

That was one of the very few examples of decent character I saw in clinton. It is surprising to me that this is the one that you pick to exemplify his flaws.

It was an old joke that I first saw Dick Cavet deliver probably ten years earlier. What does it say, it says yeaaah OK, I smoked it but hey, I'm not an 'everybody must get stoned' extremist about it. It was not dishonest. Everybody knew he was joking about the inhale thing. He was simply saying that he was like nearly everybody else his age who tried it out.

I am one of the biggest clinton critics there is but I didn't find fault with him for that comment. The most dangerous thing about it was to give kids the impression that its no big deal. On one level maybe its not. Everybody says there are no ill effects but every regular pot smoker knows you can't perform well academically while stoned ... and the last thing kids need is a substance that keeps them from performing well in school.

Bush handled it differently by refusing to deal with youthful indescretions in public. There is no constructive reason for a leader to do 'true confessions' with those he/she hopes to lead.

You could speculate that the citizens would like him better if they knew all the little fallabilities that make him seem more like a human being ... but that is never what happens.



To: GST who wrote (158286)2/21/2005 5:25:26 PM
From: Don Hurst  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Interesting how the "greased weasel in heat" and the pot smoking, alcoholic, war mongering current occupant get along so well. Let's hear it for dignity in the WH!!! Yea, yea!!