To: TimF who wrote (220361 ) 2/23/2005 7:14:35 AM From: Road Walker Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573943 re: Now that is 2004 data. Our population was smaller back than, but it had to be will over a million men reaching military age each year. Now how many people were drafted each year? And how many of them went to Vietnam? I'm not sure but it was a lot less than a million a year even at the peak of American involvement in Vietnam. We never had much more than 500k there, and most of the time we had less. Also many of them where not drafted (or if initially drafted signed up again so they where no longer draftees). If you take the average number of Americans in Vietnam over the course of the war, subtract the people in the Marines, Navy, and Air force. Subtract the mid level and senior NCOs and all officers, subtract all women, and everyone left that wasn't drafted and you probably have less then 200k, maybe less than 100k. Listen, I was THERE. If you didn't have a physical deferment, if you didn't get into the National Guard (they went to Vietnam in VERY small numbers, unlike now), if you didn't have a college deferment, you were essentially going to get drafted. If you went to Vietnam or not was the luck of the draw, but it was very likely. re: Thousands <that went to Canada> is a small number in a country of 200 million. Going to Canada was an option that involved being labeled as a coward and traitor, giving up your family and friends because you were going to go to jail if you ever stepped foot in the US again. Those folks were completely ostracized by society. A small percentage had the courage. Also there was the option of shooting off a big toe; many went for that option to get a deferment. What do you think it was like (having not been there)? That you came of draft age, didn't have a deferment, and just never got a letter to report for the physical? As they started to withdraw troops, they had the luxury to start the draft lottery , by birthdate. Still, if you were in the top ~60% (as I remember), then you were going to get drafted. Now you can argue with this if you want... but essentially you are calling me a liar. So before I lose my temper, I'm going to end the conversation. John