To: LindyBill who wrote (101799 ) 2/23/2005 2:14:22 PM From: Volsi Mimir Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793896 Ban large trucks from peak hours- That doesn't work. Maybe for a short while and as I recall the word was out 6-9 minths? prior with the rules so business's could adjust for a short period of time-- which meant stock up or re-distribute goods, force vacations- allowances that could only be done for a certain time-- making something like that permanent isn't fiscally reasonable. At that time I drove truck, owner operator and played mover..... nothing like moving yer HHG's out at 11:00 at night-- didn't happen. We better had a Bill of Lading and were given directions on side roads (exceedingly crowded) to meet the requirements of that county's rule to have this debt-trophy and another gov't slush fund operate. I had got up at 2AM for LA, SF, Chicago and NYC before and after that just to beat traffic.....in fact if you are up at that time and travel it is wall to wall truck traffic trying to get somewhere instead of the gridlock. Sometimes one didn't have a choice. Remember they are regulated not only in hours driving but hours they have to take off. There's a supposition that said that a truck only went to one stop either loading or unloading and then at what ever convenient time that truck could move. Many trucks have multiple stops-- distribution routes, times to meet for whatever the concerns that business has to operate. It slowed the whole process of JIT (just In time) distribution that keeps large metropolis's running. It was the demise of the Teamsters and rise of lower cost entrepreneurs and trucking companies who actually tried to get goods delivered than make it an all day job to do one. Transportation is the vein of business, LA solution was to control it just for a short time. Luckily I only had do it once and got out.... worse was the Northridge earthquake-- try driving and moving stuff out when the freeways were knocked down....same way with Oakland earthquake-- had to be in that one too. Nothing like gridlock. Solution-- give trucks their own lanes in and out...force distribution centers only on those routes. Look at the Jersey turnpike -- get the cars out of there and let trucks run--- what happpens- peak hours come and cars overflow to the truck lanes and like Chicago its a mess and the flow stops at choke points GW or Verazano Bridge.(NY-area) Limit vehicle size (and pay for the increase in cost) for inner city distribution. (guess what-- more vehicles on the road) In fact when I lived north of Philthadelphia, my neighbor did that with an electronics transportation company, moving them in a small truck/van to NYC and Philly so the big trucks could distribute faster....it worked till rates became so low that he couldn't make as good as money as big trucks and went back. And as far as LA 'peak hours' are: traffic is heavy most of the early morning to early evening on good days - what is peak hours and wouldn't that make 'traffic' congestion at those times that are not 'peak' hours and make other areas traffic prone for staging. Plus, back in '84 there were more truckstops and sidestreet parking in that county.(something that they also provided for short period of time- more side street parking) I do know that Atlanta makes truck traffic use the beltways and better have some proof that you must be inside using the freeways (never got stopped) but they had land area and planning and they are still crowded come rush hours. (one reason --business's moved out to the outer areas-- either tax or lower cost and many people live in the burbs around so the same conditions grow again. Solution-- tax breaks to any car that gets high mileage and low emission instead of only these hybrids and also pay incentive to carry more than one. Make cars Change the public's view with incentives and stimulate sales. If you charge by the mile you might as well have a hummer driving down the road. What's next, tag the individual and charge for public side walk use. How about force large business to have staggered employment times. I do remember no Sunday truck driving being with my dad in parts of the country though (MN, MA)....the past and the blue laws, those were the days.