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To: The Philosopher who wrote (72751)	2/23/2005 9:17:55 PM
From: SiouxPal	Respond to of 89467

It certainly "is our suffering and our torture"....now.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (72751)	2/23/2005 9:42:00 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Respond to of 89467

What you say is true. Although the bullies knew better than to screw with me on the playground <g> I certainly wasn't going to win every battle but I won most. And nobody every did battle with me and walked away thinking "Gee, I'm glad I decided to screw with Gloop today."

To: The Philosopher who wrote (72751)	2/23/2005 9:45:15 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"until somebody stronger and with a higher sense or right comes along and stops them." So I take it you favor invading any country that has an abusive and dictatorial government? Or only those on someones short list? If so, what criteria puts them on the list?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (72751)	2/24/2005 12:18:09 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"The basic reason we are at war in Iraq is because we believe, with John Donne, that no man is an island; that the suffering of those imprisoned and tortured by Saddam is our suffering and our torture." That's just a load of neocon revisionist history. We're at war in Iraq because Bush wanted to be for his own reasons. The way he sold the war was WMD. Even Wolfowitz admits they all settled on WMD as the main way to sell the war, even though the evidence was unconvincing. A lot of Americans and most Europeans didn't buy it - correctly.