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To: RetiredNow who wrote (221237)2/28/2005 10:18:49 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572993
 
Liberalism: Can it survive?

Mon Feb 28, 4:03 PM ET


By John Leo

QUESTION FOR THE DAY: IF LIBERALISM isn't dead, then why are autopsies performed so regularly? In the latest examination of the much-probed cadaver, the New Republic 's editor-in-chief, Martin Peretz, recalls that John Kenneth Galbraith, in the early 1960s, pronounced American conservatism dead, citing as heavy evidence that conservatism was "bookless" or bereft of new ideas. Peretz writes, "It is liberalism that is now bookless and dying." Liberals, he says, are not inspired by any vision of the good society; and the lack of new ideas and the absence of influential liberal thinkers, he says, are obvious.

Galbraith's comment contains some comfort for liberals: Conservatism revived with great intellectual ferment and a long burst of new ideas, and liberalism presumably can do the same. But there is no sign that this is happening. No real breakthrough in liberal thought and programs has occurred since the New Deal, giving liberalism its nostalgic, reactionary cast.

Worse, the cultural liberalism that emerged from the convulsions of the 1960s drove the liberal faith out of the mainstream. Its fundamental value is that society should have no fundamental values, except for a pervasive relativism that sees all values as equal. Part of the package was a militant secularism, pitched against religion, the chief source of fundamental values. Complaints about "imposing" values were also popular then, aimed at teachers and parents who worked to socialize children.

Modern liberalism, says Harvard political philosopher Michael Sandel, has emptied the national narrative of its civic resources, putting religion outside the public square and creating a value-neutral "procedural republic." One of the old heroes of liberalism, John Dewey, said in 1897 that the practical problem of modern society is the maintenance of the spiritual values of civilization. Not much room in liberal thought for that now, or for what another liberal icon, Walter Lippmann, called the "public philosophy." The failure to perceive the importance of community has seriously wounded liberalism and undermined its core principles. So has the strong tendency to convert moral and social questions into issues of individual rights, usually constructed and then massaged by judges to place them beyond the reach of majorities and the normal democratic process.

Bitter. Liberals have been slow to grasp the mainstream reaction to the no-values culture, chalking it up to Karl Rove, sinister fundamentalists, racism, or the stupidity of the American voter. Since November 2, the withering contempt of liberals for ordinary Americans has been astonishing. Voting for Bush gave "quite average Americans a chance to feel superior," said Andrew Hacker, a prominent liberal professor at Queens College. We are seeing the bitterness of elites who wish to lead, confronted by multitudes who do not wish to follow. Liberals might one day conclude that while most Americans value autonomy, they do not want a procedural republic in which patriotism, religion, socialization, and traditional values are politically declared out of bounds. Many Americans notice that liberalism nowadays lacks a vocabulary of right and wrong, declines to discuss virtue except in snickering terms, and seems increasingly hostile to prevailing moral sentiments.

For a stark vision of what cultural liberalism has come to, consider the breakdown of the universities, the fortresses of the 1960s cultural liberals and their progeny. Students are taught that objective judgments are impossible. All knowledge is compromised by issues of power and bias. Therefore, there is no way to come to judgment about anything, since judgment itself rests on quicksand. This principle, however, is suspended when the United States and western culture are discussed, because the West is essentially evil and guilty of endless crimes. Better to declare a vague transnational identity and admiration for the United Nations (news - web sites). The campuses indulge in heavy coercion and indoctrination. A sign of the times: The University of California's academic assembly eliminated the distinction between "interested" and "disinterested" scholarship by a 45-to-3 vote. The campuses are politicized, and they don't care who knows it. Harvard is all atwitter because its president ran afoul of local orthodoxy, suggesting, ever so tentatively, that sexual differences might be a factor in careers in science.

In their bafflement over rejection of their product, liberals have been lacing speeches with religious phrases and asking mainstream Americans to vote their economic interests by rejecting Republican fat cats. It will take a bit more than that.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (221237)2/28/2005 10:46:03 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572993
 
mindmeld,

Re: I am a believer that the status quo in the Middle East was no longer acceptable.

And I'm absolutely convinced that the American public haven't much of a clue as to what is really going on there. Do Americans know that the U.S. government is responsible for blocking over 30 UN Resolutions condemning Israel for its illegal occupation and brutalization of Palestine? A tiny percentage do, because our corrupt and one-sided mainstream media has deliberately engaged in a program to brainwash the public.

Is the public aware that under Saddam Hussein, Iraq briefly enjoyed the greatest degree of personal liberties, free education, full employment, universal health care and prosperity that that nation has ever enjoyed? Are Americans aware of the sophistication of the arts that flourished in Iraq under the Ba'athist regime until U.S. interventions and sanctions undermined Iraqi culture?

I find that the American public is dangerously uninformed about the malicious destabilization that the U.S. government has employed in the Middle East for the past five decades in an attempt to thwart pan-Arabism. U.S. foreign policy, largely a bag of dirty tricks, has done more for the destabilization and demoralization of the Middle East than any other force.

The U.S. government has had a continuous policy of supporting despots and dynasties and suppressing democracy in the Middle East, in spite of the rhetorical flourishes that continuously bombard the naive. The U.S. government's first major success along these lines was the overthrow of the democratically elected and very popular Mossadeq government in Iran. In this shameful incident in 1953, the C.I.A. engineered a coup d'etat that ended the most promising experiment in democracy in the Middle East, replacing Mossadeq with the compliant, despotic and loathed Shah, Reza Pahlavi. Please read Stephen Kinzer's excellent history, "All the Shah's Men" for the story of duplicity and anti-democratic deception that the U.S. government engaged in: tinyurl.com

In the case of Saudi Arabia, we have consistently supported the anti-democratic monarchy. There is no real effort to democratize that nation. The U.S. position with regard to democracy in Saudi Arabia is pure hypocrisy.

In 1990-1, the U.S. removed Iraqi troops from the monarchy of Kuwait. The corrupt al-Sabah family has ruled that nation with the full blessing of the U.S. government for generations. These are absolute royalists, and there has been no effort on the part of the Kuwaitis to move toward more democratic rule. And no complaint from the Clinton or Bush Administrations regarding the intransigence of the al-Sabahs to share power.

So when you talk of democracy in the Middle East, I'm frankly wondering where in the world you are refering to? The only places that I see the artificial and fraudulent use of the buzzword "democracy" is as it applies to regimes that the Israelis and their eager servants in the U.S. government hope to destabilize.

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Re: But the liberals on this thread continue to deny that anything good is happening in the Middle East.

That's not quite true. You might want to review the brief history of the al-Jazeera network. This has to be one of the very best developments in the region, with millions of Arabs getting something close to BBC quality news from a basically unbiased source. This I find to be a great advance over the typical state-controlled media in most of the Middle East. This is a very democratic development for the Middle East.

Ironically, al-Jazeera has had its offices in both Kabul and in Baghdad bombed by the U.S. military. The military denies that this was deliberate, but most observers know that the military lies all the time.

So, mindmeld, how do you make this ugly fact fit into your pollyannish version of the U.S. military bringing democracy to the Middle East?



To: RetiredNow who wrote (221237)3/1/2005 3:10:44 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572993
 
I am a believer that the status quo in the Middle East was no longer acceptable. It had boiled over and burned the U.S. badly.

This is, of course, nonsense. The fundamentalist Islam threat to the US was embodied in Al Qaeda, an organization banned in the ME who's leader had been exiled to Afghanistan.

As for "burning the US badly", which ME country - Saudi, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Qatar or Yemen, burned the US badly between 1992 and 2001? What exactly did these ME countries do to give you the impression you hold????



To: RetiredNow who wrote (221237)3/1/2005 2:49:50 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1572993
 
This is exactly the attitude the Dems need to have. The emperor has no clothes and he hasn't had them since he took over in 2000:

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