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To: stockman_scott who wrote (158788)3/4/2005 10:31:48 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I think Scheer missed the biggest hypocrisy. Israel. Cut off foreign aid to Israel until they sign the NPT. You don't even have to use "sanctions". Maybe someone has an argument why Israel should be exempt, but I've never heard it.

It's a shame, Iran was on a slow track to moderating ~5 years ago and Bush has pushed them in the exact opposite direction.

jttmab



To: stockman_scott who wrote (158788)3/4/2005 2:50:58 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
Scheer was always irrational, but the number of times he now manages to contradict himself inside a sentence is mind-boggling:

Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan's scandalous campaign to sell nuclear materials and knowledge to unstable countries such as North Korea and Libya, as well as Iran, was overlooked by successive U.S. administrations

So, Scheer is claiming that the Clinton administration KNEW that Pakistan was selling nukes to North Korea and Libya ("successive administrations"), and did nothing? But it was only "noticed" by the Bush administration? How did Bush manage to "notice" and halt AQ Khan's Sam's Club for Nukes if he was so busy being good buddies with Musharaff: "Washington dropped anti-proliferation sanctions against Pakistan"

So on the one hand, successive administrations "permitted" Pakistan's nuclear proliferation. On the other hand, Bush stopped it even though he's being so nice to Pakistan. And naturally, this makes it all Bush's fault!

Hello? Is there supposed to be any logic in there? anwhere?

In reality, the Clinton administration did not know about North Korea (they thought they had a deal, the fools) or AQ Khan's Sam's Club for Nukes. Bush only found out about BECAUSE he made Musharaff pick sides in a hurry after 9/11, and Musharaff decided Pakistan was going to be on the US side of the GWOT, like it or not. So Clinton got bamboozled, but Bush didn't. And Scheer uses this as proof of Bush incompetence!

What is it with the left these days? Can't they even find writers who can construct an argument?



To: stockman_scott who wrote (158788)3/4/2005 3:04:22 PM
From: GST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<The most powerful liberalizing forces the U.S. wields are not military, but economic and cultural. Though not as macho as trying to spread democracy through the barrel of a gun, normalization offers a better prospect of accomplishing that end, while saving billions of dollars and priceless lives.>

Powerful statement. It is the heart of the problem we face with an Administration bent on a largely militaristic foreign policy.