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To: TimF who wrote (223544)3/11/2005 8:07:46 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573433
 
Exactly! This is what I think John and others fail to see. If the Muslims vote themselves into a theocracy and then they lose their Democracy, then they never really had a Democracy to begin with.

Look at Turkey's Democracy. It is a true Democracy, because in some years we have seen secularization. In other years, more recently, you have seen increased Islamization. But the people are always free to choose a new leadership, if the current one goes in a direction the masses don't like.

Thx for bringing that up, tw. Good point.



To: TimF who wrote (223544)3/13/2005 2:55:44 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573433
 
To really be a democracy you don't just have to have elections .. you have to continue to have elections.

Correct, and perhaps more importantly (at least in the ME), you've gotta let women vote. If this ever gets done, we will probably find out that the current rules restricting women's rights are not what the normal Arab rulers call them "part of our culture that you should be more tolerant of", but are actually what any objective observer would call them - enslavement.

Let Saudi women vote, and you will quickly see that they don't think it should be part of "their unique Arab culture" to prohibit them from being in public on their own.

If you notice, the Arabs saying "you outsiders stay out of our local Arab cultural practice" are usually the ones benefiting from the practice.