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To: Suma who wrote (8585)3/16/2005 3:30:54 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
"Once again, both sides lie. Which one's lies are the biggest ?"

Read the article below SUMA. Now you tell me.... Which one's
lies are the biggest?


Correction: Some Of Our Facts Were Wrong; Our Point Was Right

By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 15, 2005

You have to admire the left, or at least its ability to conduct political warfare. We have mounted a campaign for academic freedom based on hundreds of testimonies from liberal as well as conservative students in more than 30 states and at colleges from coast to coast, but leftists have pounced on a single student’s testimony about a single exam at the university of Colorado in an attempt to discredit all the evidence we have gathered and the case we have made.

Not one leftist or liberal media outlet has attempted to find out for itself what is taking place on college campuses and how extremist ideologues like Ward Churchill are conducting themselves in the classroom. But a reporter for the Cleveland Plain Dealer and an army of Internet bloggers has taken the time to zero in one of the hundreds of cases we have identified with the obvious intention of bringing the entire campaign for academic freedom and just plain decency in the classroom to a halt.


Scott Jaschik of the webzine Inside Higher Ed, has published an article today – “Tattered Poster Child” -- about this case, which seeks to debunk our claims, based on an interview with an official at the University of Northern Colorado. Until now the university has denied us all information about the incident, which is why we relied on the student herself.

The Jaschik story, which does not appear to be politically motivated, raises serious questions about our story that the student was required to answer a “question” on a final exam in a Criminology course, which we reported as “Explain Why George Bush is a war criminal.” Jaschik did not interview the student who is too fearful of recriminations to be interviewed by the press, nor did he inform us of the university’s counter-claims so that we could interview the student. I began writing this response to Jaschik's story, which is already on the web, at 5:00 AM, so without the ability to interview the student myself, I am forced to make a response.

Actually, I am not forced to make a response but choose to do so to clarify matters as best I am able at this point, and to acknowledge where the information we reported appears to have been wrong. I do so as an earnest of our good faith in attempting to keep the record straight.


First, let me point out that contrary to what the Inside Higher Ed piece says this student’s complaint was not “the basis for many speeches by David Horowitz in his campaign against what he calls political bias in the classroom.” Nor is she the “Poster Child” for the campaign – a title that seriously distorts its agendas.

While I have mentioned her case on several occasions, it was the basis of no speeches I have made.

The basis of my speeches is my personal interviews with literally thousands of students on the more than 250 campuses I have visited in the last 15 years.
I recently gave testimony to the Education Committee of the Ohio Senate in behalf of Senate Bill 24, which is based on the Academic Bill of Rights. It mentions this case. Readers can judge for themselves whether this case is the basis of my testimony, or whether it is merely one example among many.
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Secondly, I have not conducted a “campaign against what [Horowitz] calls political bias in college classrooms.” In fact I have never used the term “political bias in college classrooms.” I assume that everyone has a bias. I am not concerned about bias in the classroom.

I am concerned about professional behavior in the classroom.

I am concerned when professors become political advocates in the classroom and turn their students into political adversaries.

This is an activity that conflicts with the professional responsibility professors have to teach all their students, even those who disagree with them. Political advocacy in the classroom violates the tenets of academic freedom as laid down by the American Association of University Professors, as well as the academic freedom guidelines of most universities. That is my concern.


(The term “bias” has appeared in my writings and speeches only in reference to the university hiring process which has resulted in absurd majorities of leftwing professors on college faculties by ratios that range from 7-1 to 30 – 1. I think inquiry should be made into the hiring process itself, but I have not made this part of the academic freedom campaign because this cannot be accomplished without faculty approval, and legislation to compel faculty approval would severely damage the independence of the university. The academic freedom campaign is designed to preserve the intellectual independence of the university.)

Finally, this is not a campaign about leftwing professors’ abuse of students in the classroom. It is about professorial abuse of students in the classroom whether the abuser is a leftist or a conservative, a Democrat or a Republican. We have defended liberal students whose professors have attempted to indoctrinate them
(vid: my testimony to the Ohio Senate - frontpagemag.com ).

Scott Jaschik and others have missed this point, and used their misunderstanding either to attack us or in the case of Jaschik to inadvertently put us in a bad light. In his Inside Higher Ed article, debunking our story, Jaschik writes,
“And the professor who has been held up as an example of out-of-control liberal academics? In an interview last night, he said that he’s a registered Republican.”

Now I grant that in the absence of information about the professor’s politics (and until Jaschik’s article I had no idea who the professor was) it is reasonable to conclude that he was an out-of-control liberal on the basis of the exam question we cited. But he was not held up by me as an out-of-control liberal in my speeches. Many Republicans also opposed the war in Iraq. This professor – whose name I now have learned is Dunkley -- was held up by me as a professor trying to impose his conclusions about the war – or a conclusion about the war – on his students. As we shall see, even though our presentation of this case appears now to have had several faults, this charge – which is the only really important charge -- will stick.

According to Jaschik,
“Dunkley said he is angry at the way Horowitz and his supporters have made him an example of alleged liberal bias in academe.” We have made him no such thing. We have made him an example of how some professors advance partisan positions on controversial issues and make adherence to these positions a requirement for the student’s grade.

Professor Dunkley also claims that I
“cooked this whole thing up.” I didn’t cook anything up. I was given this student’s story among many (readers may read this report which relates the facts as they were given to my staff and decide for themselves - studentsforacademicfreedom.org ).

I chose to use this case as one among several because it seemed to succinctly sum up the problem as I saw it. The problem being that many professors seem to regard their classrooms as political soapboxes and require one “correct” answer to questions that are controversial.

Since the intent of many of the critics of our story is to put this view of what is going in our universities in question, allow me to point out that the president of Harvard has just been publicly humiliated by his faculty for expressing a politically incorrect opinion on a controversial subject. If the president of Harvard – a former member of the Clinton cabinet and a distinguished scholar in his own right -- can be humiliated by out-of-control ideologues on his faculty, imagine what these same faculty members will do to students over whom they have authority and grading power. That – and not a particular exam at the University of Northern Colorado – is the basis for our academic freedom campaign.

What we have in Northern Colorado is a student who feels intimidated by her own university administration, and a university administration who, as reported by Scott Jaschik, says this about her story:


1) The exam question was not “Explain Why George Bush Is A War Criminal.”

2) She did not receive an “F” – as she claimed to us – for writing that Saddam Hussein was a war criminal.

3) There were two required questions on the test and two optional and the one the student chose was one of the optional questions.

What follows is the actual text of the exam question (which was not supplied to us or the student) as reported by the university official. While reading it, bear in mind that this was not a final exam question in an International Studies course. It was an exam question in a Criminology course. The description of this course in the university catalogue is as follows: “Survey criminal behavior generally, including theories of causation, types of crime, extent of crime, law enforcement, criminal justice, punishment and treatment.”

Now read the exam question and see;

1) whether it belongs on the final exam of a course of this description, and

2) whether it requires students to argue that the United States and its commander-in-chief are guilty of criminal behavior:


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“The American government campaign to attack Iraq was in part based on the assumptions that the Iraqi government has ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction.’ This was never proven prior to the U.S. police action/war and even President Bush, after the capture of Baghdad, stated: ‘we may never find such weapons.’ Cohen’s research on deviance discussed this process of how the media and various moral entrepreneurs and government enforcers can conspire to create a panic. How does Cohen define this process? Explain it in depth. Where does the social meaning of deviance come from? Argue that the attack on Iraq was deviance based on negotiable statuses. Make the argument that the military action of the U.S. attacking Iraq was criminal.”
>>>

The way I parse this is, the Bush administration lied about the presence of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq and manipulated the public into a state of panic in order to attack Iraq unjustifiably. Explain why the U.S. (and obviously its President) is guilty of criminal behavior.

In other words, the exam question is pretty much how the student remembered it without the text in front of her, and how we reported it
. It doesn’t matter to me whether this professor is a Republican or a vegetarian.

This is a loaded question that seeks to enforce a student conclusion about an extremely controversial issue, which by the way is pretty remote from the subject matter that one would expect in a criminology course
.

Until I hear from the student I have no comment on the matter of the grade but it is conceivable to me that if this were an “A” student and she received a “D” or even a “C” on this exam, in her mind it might as well be an “F”. And, finally, it is quite plausible that since there were two required and two optional questions she might have been confused as to which were which, particularly since the answer to the question about the Iraq war was in fact a required answer: viz, that the United States was guilty of criminal behavior in its efforts to liberate that country.

So while we apologize for not having fully checked and corrected this story, we conclude that our complaint about the exam was justified. What happened in Professor Dunkley’s class at the University of Northern Colorado is not education, it is indoctrination. And that violates the academic freedom of the students who were subjected to it
.

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David Horowitz is the author of numerous books including an autobiography, Radical Son, which has been described as “the first great autobiography of his generation,” and which chronicles his odyssey from radical activism to the current positions he holds. Among his other books are The Politics of Bad Faith and The Art of Political War. The Art of Political War was described by White House political strategist Karl Rove as “the perfect guide to winning on the political battlefield.” Horowitz’s latest book, Uncivil Wars, was published in January this year, and chronicles his crusade against intolerance and racial McCarthyism on college campuses last spring. Click here to read more about David

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To: Suma who wrote (8585)3/16/2005 3:48:29 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
In praise of honest liberals

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Paul Greenberg
March 16, 2005

I almost drove off the road when I heard it, the shock was so great. I really should have known better than to be listening to the "news" on NPR (National Propaganda Radio) instead of the classical music station. But it's kind of a duty. Know Your Enemy and all that.

At first nothing seemed amiss. There was the ageless Daniel Schorr going on and on in that soporific way of his that can make five minutes seem an eternity, when suddenly he said something about George W. Bush perhaps having been right. I had to pull over and get my bearings. Too much coffee, I figured. It had to be my caffeinated imagination working overtime, an aural hallucination, a hoax, an April Fool's joke a little early.

Whatever it was, it couldn't be real. I resolved to stick to Mozart. But later that day, an e-mail arrived from an equally astonished friend, who not only confirmed what I'd heard but sent along a copy of a piece by Mr. Schorr in the not all that good but very gray Christian Science Monitor, in which he said, well, read it for yourself, in undeniable black and white:

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WASHINGTON (CSM) - Something remarkable is happening in the Middle East - a grass-roots movement against autocracy without any significant 'Great Satan' anti-American component. . . . The movements for democratic change in Egypt and Lebanon have happened since the successful Iraqi election on Jan. 30. And one can speculate on whether Iraq has served as a beacon for democratic change in the Middle East. During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, President Bush said that 'a liberated Iraq can show the power of freedom to transform that vital region.' He may have had it right.
>>>

Wow.

The moral of this story: Keep the faith. Even in American liberals. They may be the last to get it, but they're starting to.

First The New York Times acknowledges the courage and vision of this much-bashed president, and now comes praise from . . . Daniel Schorr! On NPR!

And that wasn't all. The miracles kept coming.


Here was Kurt Andersen in, of all blue-state publications, New York magazine:

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Our heroic and tragic liberal-intellectual capaciousness is facing its sharpest test since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Back then, most of us were forced, against our wills, to give Ronald Reagan a large share of credit for winning the Cold War. Now the people of this Bush-hating city are being forced to grant the merest possibility that Bush, despite his annoying manner and his administration's awful hubris and dissembling and incompetence concerning Iraq, just might - might, possibly - have been correct to invade, to occupy, and to try to enable a democratically elected government in Iraq. . . .

It won't do simply to default to our easy predispositions - against Bush, even against war. If partisanship makes us abandon intellectual honesty, if we oppose what our opponents say or do simply because they are the ones saying or doing it, we become mere political short-sellers, hoping for bad news because it's good for our ideological investment.
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Wow. Talk about intellectual honesty. And intellectual courage.


Kurt Andersen has to know that, by saying such things, he risks disappointing his natural audience, the Bush-bashers who look to commentators like him for the strength to shake off any sign of good news out of the Middle East. The guy deserves a salute or, if that is too military a gesture for his tastes, then a respectful nod of the head. At this rate, that over-worked epithet "knee-jerk liberal" is going to lose all meaning.

Kurt Andersen now has contributed the best, shortest description around for those betting against American policy in this war on terror: political short-sellers. Perfect. As perfect as Jeane Kirkpatrick's phrase back in the Reagan Years for those who saw this country, not our adversaries, as the chief source of danger to the world: the Blame America First crowd.

Speaking of short-sellers, there will always be those who never lose faith in the bright, shining possibility of American defeat. Here is Nancy Soderberg, who served on the National Security Council during the Clinton administration and long sleep, as she tried to keep up her spirits during an appearance on the Jon Stewart show:


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"It's scary for Democrats," she began, "I have to say." But refusing to give up, she added: "Well, there's still Iran and North Korea, don't forget. There's still hope for the rest of us . . . . There's always hope that this might not work."
>>>

Later, after her words embarrassed her, Ms. Soderberg said she was just kidding. She could have fooled me. Only after being hard-pressed would she give this Republican administration any credit for these hopeful developments in the Middle East.

But you have to forgive her. It can't be easy rooting for tyranny these days.


©2005 Tribune Media Services

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To: Suma who wrote (8585)3/17/2005 1:27:01 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
David Horowitz issues a correction, then proves his point

Power Line

David Horowitz, the indefatigable crusader against political indoctrination on college campuses, has corrected his description of one instance of such indoctrination. Horowitz reported that, at the University of Northern Colorado, a professor had required a student to answer this question on a final exam in a Criminology course: "Explain why George Bush is a war criminal." The student wrote instead that Saddam Hussein was a war criminal and, according to Horowitz, received an "F."

Horowitz relied on an account of the student's story provided by his staff (he had little choice, the university would not give him any information). However, it now appears that the question the student answered was one of two optional questions, and thus she was not required to answer it. In addtion, she did not receive an "F." Finally, the actual question was this:

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The American government campaign to attack Iraq was in part based on the assumptions that the Iraqi government has ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction.’ This was never proven prior to the U.S. police action/war and even President Bush, after the capture of Baghdad, stated: ‘we may never find such weapons.’ Cohen’s research on deviance discussed this process of how the media and various moral entrepreneurs and government enforcers can conspire to create a panic. How does Cohen define this process? Explain it in depth. Where does the social meaning of deviance come from? Argue that the attack on Iraq was deviance based on negotiable statuses. Make the argument that the military action of the U.S. attacking Iraq was criminal.
>>>

Horowitz has acknowledged the "serious questions" now raised with respect to his story, and he has corrected that story and apologized for it. He insists, however, that his point about political indoctrination is supported by the facts as they now appear.

I agree. The question posed by the professor asserts that President Bush merely assumed the existence of WMD in Iraq, whereas in truth Bush relied on substantial evidence presented by our intelligence agencies and believed to be correct even by governments that opposed military action. The question goes on to suggest that the administration's "enforcers" conspired with the media and others to create panic. It then instructs those who answer the question to argue that, under these circumstances, attacking Iraq was criminal. The only material difference I see between this question and the one Horowitz thought the professor had asked is that the actual question tells the students why Bush is a war criminal before asking them to explain why he fits that description.

Does the fact that students had the option of answering a different question help? I guess so, for students who felt they could handle the other question. But why should these students be required to read a statement by their professor accusing the president of actions he did not commit that cast him as a war criminal?

For his part, the professor has objected to his characterization as an out-of-control liberal, noting that he is a registered Republican who doesn't vote any party line. This devise is never very persuasive (wasn't Lawrence Walsh a registered Republican). One always wonders who is the last Republican folks like this voted for, and whether the deviation from the party line consists of voting for Ralph Nader or worse. But none of this matters. As Horowitz points out, the issue is not who the professor votes for; it is whether he seeks to indoctrinate his students. Based on the accurate version of his exam question, the answer to that question appears to be affirmative.

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