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To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (105426)	3/22/2005 4:32:56 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

i'm not sure i can find the document, but will look when i have some time later You need not bother on my account. I saw a snippet of her on TV this morning so I accept that she said it. the point i am making is that it was her husband's decision to 'plug her in' (original feeding tube insertion) and now insists that she had indicated to him verbally before her injury that she would never want to be 'on a tube' ! I don't understand what you think that demonstrates. I posted this a little while ago about my father. Message 21158487 He's ninety one and I had to call an ambulance for him when he collapsed the last time I visited him in November so this is very real to me. I know he wants to go fast and not be hooked up to anything. I completely support him in that. But I'd still hook him up while the doctors were still trying various options and I was trying to figure out and come to term with his prospects. If you love someone, you don't want to let them die precipitously. Then, when the futility of it sinks in, you act to honor their wishes. So I have no problem relating to how Michael might have hooked Terri up and then later, belatedly recognizing the futility and considering her wishes, determined to pull the plug. I don't know if that's how it happened. But it could have happened that way. It also could have happened that he grew weary of the encumbrance and wanted her out of the way so he made up the business about her wish to not live like that. I don't think the point you make about the nurse and eating herself informs that question either way. do you think at the very least, the courts should allow a swallow test for ms. schiavo? I don't see the point of that. So what if she can swallow? How does that change anything? Her higher level brain is still mush. What's the difference between being a cerebrumless and swallowing vs cerebrumless and non-swallowing? The idea is that she purportedly wouldn't want to live without a cerebrum. The swallowing thing seems like a red herring to me but I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise.

To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (105426)	3/22/2005 4:53:42 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

Read the time line in the PDF. I can see where early on there may have been genuine hope. After years he had none. No hope, then one pulls all plugs. Same thing with when he started friendship with other woman. Looks to be after point in time when there was no hope. There may have been a period when his motives were less than pure. But only may from the time line. Need a far more detailed time line of facts. Lawyers fighting against a settlement would be more likely not to settle if Terri had passed by allowing medical treatment to lapse. It seems all the money has gone to treatment and to pay for what it takes to give Terri what Michael states is her wishes. news.findlaw.com