To: goldworldnet who wrote (99275 ) 3/22/2005 5:18:47 PM From: epicure Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807 Huge problem. I agree. There are, however, many excellent solutions out there- trouble is, like most solutions, they cost money. You can't fix a huge plumbing problem in your house for free (unless you are a plumber, and even then you have to count your own time)- and most other things in life won't get fixed for free either. Are their problems in education? You bet. But most of those problems could be fixed by smaller class sizes, home visits, intensive remedial courses (would you believe in California even though we test the hell out of the kids we have no money to do anything for the kids who fail at most of our schools?), incentives, counseling, and more emphasis on trade schools. I am not sure middle class folks, with stable families, and a place to live, and food on the table, understand the situations of the marginal students. We have students who disappear for months at a time to go pick crops. We have students who are homeless, or who are living in shelters. We have students who may be the sole support of their family, and we have students who are already embarking on a life of crime. It is imperative, I think, to reach out to these students in a multitude of ways. Simply being harsh and judgmental is going to lose a lot of these kids. They've already felt the harsh judgment of life, and it hasn't made them interested in school. More of the same probably isn't going to change things. I'm open to trying all sorts of things, keeping an eye on what works, and focusing the money on the programs that save the most kids- but we have to be open to new solutions. The same old same old is NOT working for us.