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To: tejek who wrote (226832)3/28/2005 10:31:31 PM
From: 10K a day  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573325
 
if her motor cortex is spinal fluid i'm sure she can't swallow. couple that with a dried crunchy (restricted) esophagus from years of a g tube. I would assume she has a g tube. of course she can't swallow. geeze. what a hoot. swallowing is a motor skill that takes practice. there is some swallow reflex but they aren't going to elicit the reflex in somebody with no motor function. let alone. fluid is the hardest of all to swallow. so it would be like wine with thickener. yuck. where do we get these clowns.

oh well.



To: tejek who wrote (226832)3/28/2005 11:23:50 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573325
 
"I have heard more than one MD say she can't swallow......"

Umm, Ted, swallowing saliva is a basic, brain stem function. What the MDs are talking about is that she can't sequence between chewing, if that is stimulated, and swallowing what she chewed. If the cortex is gone, all that exist is basic functions. Moving from one state, like chewing, is not followed by another state, like swallowing. The sequencer is gone. That is what the MDs are talking about, and that is why this is a controversy at all. Because fairly complex events are handled at a low level, and can be triggered by random firings, a human can interpret these events as having some causation. When, in fact, there is none.

The brain is a pretty low bandwidth device. Things that occur on a millisecond timescale are invisible to it. Because even things that are physiological occur on a shorter timescale than that, things have to be very distributed. The cerebral cortex, which waves the baton, doesn't have much low level control unless it wants it. So there are a lot of mechanisms that control functions that the cerebral cortex doesn't want to worry about at a particular point in time. That is the trap we are seeing.



To: tejek who wrote (226832)3/29/2005 12:01:01 AM
From: Dan B.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573325
 
She produces saliva, I'm quite sure from hearing the nurses testifiy on television unapposed, not to mention the lack of response from the professional fellow on the radio who had stated just what you've heard. I think I've offered a good explanation for you. As one nurse said some time ago (I paraphrase), "we fed her jello in '93 while she was in my care, and if she doesn't swallow then where did it go? It didn't come out of her ears!"

Dan B.