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To: tejek who wrote (227777)	4/4/2005 7:35:47 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576664

tejek, re:That's all well and good but to ignore the reality seems rather arrogant Yes - Africans in mass are ignoring reality and continue to contract AIDS from outside the protection of their own marriage.

To: tejek who wrote (227777)	4/4/2005 8:51:24 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576664

tejek, re:That's all well and good but to ignore the reality seems rather arrogant. To assume the Church could call something a sin and then produce a guide to sinning safely is true hypocrisy. Classically the Catholic debate regarding condom usage is one of birth control and their view is well known. Perhaps not well accepted. If you construct an example of a married man contracting AIDS from say a transfusion (i.e. no fault of his own) can he in fact use condoms to protect his wife and family? Would in this case the Church be in support of his choice? I don't know the answer, but if the Church was against condom use to protect life from a known threat in a non-sinful relationship - I would say they are ignorant, not arrogant. - Eric washingtonpost.com Vatican officials have said that in the field some individual priests or health care workers might see fit to counsel use of condoms in particular cases. But the officials emphasized that such instances did not represent a change in teaching. "The problem is that anytime we try to give a nuanced response, we see headlines that say, 'Vatican approves condoms.' The issue is more complicated than that," Monsignor Angel Rodriguez Luno, a professor of moral theology at the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross, said on Friday. "From a moral point of view, we cannot condone contraception. We cannot tell a classroom of 16-year-olds they should use condoms.

To: tejek who wrote (227777)	4/7/2005 4:23:18 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1576664

That's all well and good but to ignore the reality seems rather arrogant. The problem seems to be with those that will ignore what the church says about sex, but pay attention to it about contraception. If people followed the church's teachings consistently and didn't have sex outside of marriage then STDs (at least those that are exclusively or almost exclusively transmitted sexually) wouldn't be much of an issue. If they felt that they didn't have to follow the church's teaching then they could go ahead and use condoms. It seems silly to me to not use a condom because the church says you shouldn't but then you have pre-marital sex which the church also says you shouldn't do. Tim