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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3194)4/6/2005 3:31:25 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Respond to of 5569
 
the elect or Jews of faith accepted the word and testimony of the Holy Spirit and received Jesus as their Messiah. The remnant was, as prophesied by Isaiah, saved and the scriptures fulfilled as the Jewish Church of the first century went out and evangelized the world.

You may be exposing another "fable" about Israel propagated by the evangelicals today in what you are saying. I have to look into it more.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3194)4/6/2005 3:38:17 PM
From: gregor  Respond to of 5569
 
4. In whom the God of this world hath blinded them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Can you find a sharper two edged sword, this one is only razor sharp.......now that is a close shave !!



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3194)4/6/2005 7:34:35 PM
From: alan w  Respond to of 5569
 
Wrong again Vidrine. You have a problem believing Paul in Romans?

Did satan assure the gentiles of salvation?

Romans 11:8 According as it is written, God (that's capital G in every bible I have, as in God the Father, creator of the universe)hath given them a spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;)unto this day.

9: And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back away.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God(which God is this Emile?) forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

I guess satan had to assure salvation for the nations huh Emile?

I have just decided that you are a snare and a stumblingstone for the people of this board that you're able to buffalo. I mean really, giving satan credit for God's plan for Christ's work to save the nations is just too much. You don't even know God. If you did, you wouldn't make blunders such as this one.

You really dug up this old post to not answer the latest blasphemy you uttered yesterday about the church being the means of salvation.

Which God do you worship?

The god of this world or the Creator God who Paul was speaking of in Romans 11?



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3194)4/6/2005 7:48:57 PM
From: alan w  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 5569
 
Lest you lead more astray with your lies.

Paul is quoting the old testament in Romans 11. And it is the word of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 29:4

Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.

Who is the Lord here Emile??

Isaiah 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

Remember the phrase "salvation of the nations". satan is not behind the salvation of anyone, even if you insist he is.



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (3194)4/6/2005 11:14:05 PM
From: alan w  Respond to of 5569
 
So tell me Emile, who is Paul speaking of in Romans 11:8? Does the phrase "out of context" ring a bell? satan is never mentioned in Romans 11:8.

Let’s play an Emile switch the name game.

This is a complete perversion of scripture and I apologize, but this is how ridiculous Emile is and this is his perverted gyration to justify hatred of a group of people. He does not do this out of a love of truth, but out of hatred of the jewish people.

This is how Emile reads scripture: If the bible mentions God, substitute satan or “the god of this world” in His place. This is because in II Corinthians 4:4 satan is referred to as "the god of this world". However, this does not give license to substitute satan in place of God wherever Emile feels like it.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the god of this world (satan), and the Word was the god of this world (satan)

2 The same was in the beginning with the god of this world (satan).

3 All things were made through him (the god of this world (satan) ; and without him (the god of this world (satan)) was not anything made that hath been made.

4 In him (the god of this world (satan)) was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

6 There came a man, sent from the god of this world (satan), whose name was John.

7 The same came for witness, that he might bear witness of the light, that all might believe through him.

8 He was not the light, but [came] that he might bear witness of the light.

9 There was the true light, [even the light] which lighteth every man, coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and they that were his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of the god of this world (satan), [even] to them that believe on his name:

13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the god of this world (satan).

14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the the god of this world (satan)), full of grace and truth.

Take your BS elsewhere Emile.