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To: i-node who wrote (228437)	4/9/2005 12:40:28 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1578401

>Z is complaining about higher gasoline prices, so is he willing to pay double our current prices to incentivize people to use public transportation? If the money were being used to improve our public transportation system in a way that would make it better for me to use public transportation than to drive, I would be fine with that. However, in my current situation (because I live in a city of 100,000 rather than one of 1,000,000+), it takes me about twelve minutes to get from my house to my office. It would take me probably two hours to take a bus (well, multiple buses) because my office is in the suburbs. It's nearly a ten minute walk from my house to the bus stop alone. Public transportation in my area can't work for me in its current form. There are few places where I can get to quicker via public transportation than I can by car. One of those is New York City, and I normally take Amtrak to get there. Other than NYC and maybe Montreal, for me, it's faster to take a car anywhere closer than probably Toronto (which is about eight hours away by car). But the money's not going to build better public transportation; it's used to line the pockets of Exxon, its executives, and its investors. >It isn't that we don't have it; it is that nobody wants to use it because gasoline is so cheap here. But to hear Z tell that isn't the case. Some large cities do have it (and it gets used there!); most of the country does not. >The Left, as usual, is all over the place. I'm not sure how our positions are inconsistent. -Z

To: i-node who wrote (228437)	4/9/2005 3:36:28 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578401

And unlike other developed countries in the world, we have the weakest, most inefficient public transportation system. While other developed countries have taxed gas and used that money to build fast and competitive public transportation, we have done everything to insure that Americans remain dependent on the price of gas. Only a wise one like you would boast about such an accomplishment. Not boasting. Just stating facts. Z is complaining about higher gasoline prices, so is he willing to pay double our current prices to incentivize people to use public transportation? It wouldn't take double but then you know that. People who are opposed to public transportation love to use an astronomical figure when talking about the price gas would have to bumped up to in order to build a good public transportation system in the US. It isn't that we don't have it; it is that nobody wants to use it because gasoline is so cheap here. But to hear Z tell that isn't the case. In most American cities, public transportation stinks both intracity and intercity. Where its good, reliance on autos has been reduced. Were the gas be priced at comparable levels to those in Europe, use of public transportation would increase dramatically. The Left, as usual, is all over the place. If by that you mean we are flexible and innovative and progressive, then by all means......your statement is correct. The left is the best thing that has happened to this country!