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To: GVTucker who wrote (67512)	4/11/2005 7:33:35 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 77400

Generally speaking, East Coast engineers don't work as many hours as Silicon Valley engineers. The other cities have a different culture. Possibly that is your reference point.

To: GVTucker who wrote (67512)	4/11/2005 10:15:50 AM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 77400

Not like any teachers I know. Many teachers only work 10 months out of the year. They don't carry pagers or cell phones out of job related necessity. Many went into teaching as a last resort and wouldn't make it in the real world. I mean let's face it. We all want to say good things about teachers, but who do you think goes after jobs that pay $30k per year? They are either the least capable in our society or they are the idealists. I would argue that the idealists are the minority. The teachers I talk to at my children's schools always disappoint me. The ones whom I've felt were truly competent have been few and far in between. In our money-centered society, the most capable people gravitate to where the money is at. Unfortunately, teaching doesn't pay, so the most capable don't gravitate there. I don't know how to solve the school situation in America, but that's your real problem. Maybe if we turn schooling into a market driven industry, you'll see high paid teachers. Not that I think that solution isn't fraught with conflicts of interest, inequality, and all sorts of other problems. But as long as the gov't pays teachers from our taxes, they will always be paid crap and will always attract the less capable. That's market dynamics for you. I don't think programmers will find themselves in a situation where they are paid teacher's wages, unless the gov't takes over the programming industry. So that comparison made by a previous poster wasn't too accurate.