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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61890)	4/13/2005 2:09:44 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<I think all right wing people are idiots <gggg>. They are going to get us all killed - if they had their way.> The labels left and right are poorly defined, like "Chinese" and "Jew", but for argument, let's count the bodies. Socialists and communists [let's call them left wing] Stalin - umpty million Mao - umpty million National Socialists - umpty million Pol Pot - a few million Right wing USA - a few million [Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, Korea] Britain - a few million [WWI, WWII, Boer war, etc] You can complete the list. I note in passing that Britain and USA are pretty much socialist too. Libertarians Near zero Mqurice

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61890)	4/13/2005 4:11:46 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>>I think the Chinese right wing is wrong in going after an apology. It's over. << Then most of Chinese are among your so-called "right-wing", at least a billion. And they do not just want an empty apology, they want some kind of compensation. It is not over. History is that easy to get rid off. Maybe for you it is, again, it never even have a beginning for you, so no "over" to talk about in the first place.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61890)	4/13/2005 7:42:36 PM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 74559

Is it over? Definitely not! There are still thousands of bombs and chemical weapons left in China which put great danger to Chinese everyday lives! ================================== More Japanese shells uncovered in NE. China city www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-13 17:09:34 HARBIN, April 13 (Xinhuanet) -- More abandoned military shells have been uncovered in Qiqihar, a major city in Northeastern Heilongjiang Province, as police completed their retrieval work. The shells were left by Japanese occupied forces after their surrender at the end of World War II, China Daily reported Wednesday. Seventy-three shells were dug up in all, an official from the municipal public security bureau in Qiqihar, who declined not to be named. Local police rushed to the site after they were informed that avillager had dug up a large number of old shells while digging in sand near the Nenjiang River last Friday. There were altogether five types of shells, including gas bombs. The site is three kilometers from the urban area of Qiqihar. More shells were detected in the shallow parts in the river after police found others in sand on the shore. As the area is still experiencing cold temperatures, only ice in shallow parts of the river has melted. The work of retrieval proved to be hard, according to Xu Guochen, leader of the search team. Some of the shells were retrieved by local police officers with bare hands. Large-scale inspection work for more shells at the site will have to be delayed to a later period due to the cold weather, Xu said. The shells already dug up have been removed to a safe place to avoid contamination of the river. Dong Liguo, a worker from the Qiqihar Waterworks Company, told China Daily that the site is one source of water for the company's water processing plant. "It is less than 10 km from where we get our water everyday," noted Dong. "If the shells leak, it will affect the source." The plant, which can process 20,000 tons of water daily, is one of four plants owned by the company. It provides most of the water for residents in Jianhua Districtof Qiqihar. No contamination of the water supply has so far been reported. "We have more sources than this one, and if a leak occurs we won't use water from this source," Dong said. Some senior citizens in the region recall that they saw Japanese forces carry shells to the riverside and throw them into the water. This occurred in 1945 when they retreated from Qiqihar,which was one of key troop stations for Japanese forces in northeast China from 1931-45. Enditem news.xinhuanet.com