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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (62025)	4/15/2005 11:01:05 AM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 74559

>>There are still a lot of stuff that you have to learn.<< Yes, everyone and every nation has much to learn, NOT just Chinese. The US of A too has a lot to learn! And of course Japanese have a whole lot more to learn. And if you expect China follows every single rule set by your guys, then you are wrong, definitely wrong. You will have a lot of disappointment. From your post, I can see you don't know much about China and the Chinese. So I will stop wasting my time here.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (62025)	4/15/2005 2:41:15 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<unfortunately to you, yes, I am representing most of Chinese opinion.> Notice how they don't need a referendum to see what people think. Just ask Yiwu and she'll tell you what Chinese think. If they think differently, like brian h, then they aren't Chinese and will be dealt with by "re-education" in Siberia. That doctor who warned about sars, and treated people after the Tienanmen Square attack, isn't Chinese and is being "re-educated" to see if he can be made into a proper clone again. Mqurice

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (62025)	4/16/2005 12:12:52 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 74559

You are looking for a fight. They (CCP) have already got a fight, in their own country, with the Chinese people. What they (CCP) are looking for is an outside enemy so they can make the Chinese people scared and mad and get them on the side of the CCP again. It has worked before in the past, and may work now, but cannot work forever. But we all live in the short term. Keeping power and even your own head for the short term is nothing to sneeze at. They wouldn't be so nasty if they weren't afraid. They'd be jolly and laughing with self confidence.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (62025)	4/16/2005 12:19:42 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Now here is another giveaway - You are being lectured, simultaneously, that the Chinese culture is ancient and superior, but at the same time, the Chinese economy is weak and needs special treatment, and thus, we should look the other way when they steal our intellectual property and rape the environment. What is wrong with this picture? ;^) They want it both ways. That's right. They steal from us (steal our intellectual property), shit on us (despoil the environment), tell us that they are better than we are, and threaten to attack us, threaten to destroy us, and tell us that we're doomed. Nice people, no? Well, anyway, it's nice to buy cheap Chinese goods. Too bad for the Chinese people. But we also buy cheap goods from Bangladesh, India, Abu Dhabi, Brunei, Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Haiti, Estonia, Croatia, etc., etc. We don't care who we buy cheap goods from, as long as they are reasonably well made. And the people in these other countries aren't nearly as much trouble as the Chinese. They don't steal as much, and they don't cheat as much, and they don't threaten as much. Unless the Chinese clean up their act, it will be more cost-effective to do business with these others who want our dollars and are polite about it. (Edit: even funnier. Now they blame Chinese human rights abuses on Westerners. The laughs never stop. Too bad the people doing the killing will never come to justice in China. Maybe there will be justice in the next world.)