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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Naked Shorting-Hedge Fund & Market Maker manipulation? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: kknightmcc who wrote (176)4/16/2005 1:09:34 PM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 5034
 
Very interesting. I truly relate. You can see how many have attacked me just for bringing up the issue of naked shorting. I think I'm pretty objective in attacking touts and management. For some reason, those who seem to be professional shorts see the naked shorting debate as a threat.

Although I'm not an expert in the area you raise in your post and I don't know all the facts, often you can frame a case under common law principles without a statute. If someone negligently or, as you seem to state, intentionally defamed you, an action might lie for libel or slander. If someone caused you to be named in litigation, knowing that the information he provided was false, I'd think you could use rule 11 if the person is an attorney. Otherwise, framing a claim for example under tortious interference or malicious abuse of process or malicious prosecution (usually criminal on that one) might be useful for you. The problems in these arcane areas is that judges don't use their imagination and lawyers don't have a lot of cases that are typical of your fact pattern. So people tend to get stuck thinking they can't bring a novel approach under common law principles.

In your case, the dismissal of the case probably minimizes damages. There are usually procedures whereby you can seal the court record so that reporters or others cannot have access. In your case, that may a remedy for you.

I admire your tenacity. The court system is a vast waste land even for lawyers, particularly if you try to get clients to act reasonably in their expectations.

As for posting false notices by posters, if the information is portrayed as factual and would not be construed as opinion by a reasonable reader, then actions I believe will lie under common law and under the SEC acts and regulations thereunder. But freedom of speech is paramount. The posting would have to be of a nature that XYZ corp is filing bk tomorrow or that the CEO is under investigation for pedophilia, etc.

I believe that there are posters paid by hedge funds or organized shorts. There is nothing per se wrong unless it is part of a manipulative scheme. See rule 10(b)-5. Someone who adamantly says he is there "for the good of mankind" to warn poor longs, claiming not to be short or a paid basher, and is proven to be a shill for hedge funds could face some liability issues. Of course, all this is next to impossible to prove so these issues are hardly likely to face resolution.

Further, someone who acts like an analyst and circulates an analyst report, but first trades on the information directly or indirectly before releasing it to the general investing public, may find some liability also. However, these are evolving areas of law and will likely see much discussion.

As I've posted before, I prefer a statutory revision of the entire market regulation system because courts are ill-equipped to handle this stuff.



To: kknightmcc who wrote (176)4/18/2005 8:55:07 AM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 5034
 
Sources of information

faulkingtruth.com

bobosrevenge.blogsppot.com

See this site for status of SHO list securities

buyins.net

Message boards on IHUB where NAKED SHORTING IS DISCUSSED. They require a premium membership to post I believe.

investorshub.com

investorshub.com



To: kknightmcc who wrote (176)4/19/2005 7:46:46 PM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5034
 
Great letter by Robert Shapiro former Under Secretary of Commerce To DTCC

ncans.net



To: kknightmcc who wrote (176)4/22/2005 7:32:43 AM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 5034
 
Interesting posts from the Mark Cuban blog. Lots of excerpts published elsewhere basically proclaiming, "trust me, don't even think about naked shorting as a problem."

Here's some contrary thought from the same blog.

12. Posted Apr 18, 2005, 5:03 AM ET by mfv
It really is ashame that people take the SEC and DTCC "FAQ" on it's face value and not dive into the meat of it all; Something I'm sure the SEC & DTCC are really happy to hear about. Mark, did you actually read any of it? Did you skip the part where the SEC said that pardoning the prior naked shorts was done to avoid extreme volatility in the market? How about the part where they said revealing the true Fail To Deliver numbers would traumatize the trading strategies of those that employ it (And let me remind you Naked Short Selling is still ILLEGAL for the majority of people trading). I suspect not as you probably weren't on the can that long to read the whole thing. Pity.

BTW- If you can't add an ignore feature on here, how about just banning Tony Ryals. Can we at least all agree on that?

13. Posted Apr 18, 2005, 1:49 PM ET by mfv
From the SEC mouths to your ears (Mark's Link). I can't believe people are standing for this!

F. Grandfathering Under Regulation SHO

The requirement to close-out fail to deliver positions in threshold securities that remain for 13 consecutive settlement days does not apply to positions that were established prior to the security becoming a threshold security. This is known as "grandfathering." For example, open fail positions in securities that existed prior to the effective date of Regulation SHO on January 3, 2005 are not required to be closed out under Regulation SHO.

The grandfathering provisions of Regulation SHO were adopted because the Commission was concerned about creating volatility where there were large pre-existing open positions. The Commission will continue to monitor whether grandfathered open fail positions are being cleaned up under existing delivery and settlement guidelines or whether further action is warranted.

********* Oh BOO HOO!

It is important to note that the "grandfathering" clause of the Regulation does not affect the Commission's ability to prosecute violations of law that may involve such securities or violations that may have occurred before the adoption of Regulation SHO or that occurred before the security became a threshold security.

7. Does grandfathering permit illegal activity to go unaddressed?

Regulation SHO does not require close-outs of "grandfathered" fails. As noted above, "grandfathered" status applies where the fail position was established prior to the security becoming a threshold security. However, any new fails in a security on the threshold list are subject to the mandatory close-out provisions.

Any grandfathered position that resulted from illegal activity, such as manipulation, continues to be fully subject to redress by the Commission.34 The Commission will continue to monitor whether grandfathered open fail positions are being cleaned up under existing delivery and settlement guidelines or whether further action is warranted.

********* I think you would scare them more if you just snuck up on them and said BOO!

11. Can I obtain fails information?

Currently, threshold lists include the name and ticker symbol of securities that meet the threshold level on a particular settlement date. Some investors have requested that the SROs provide more detailed information for each threshold security, including the total number of fails, the total short interest position, the name of the broker-dealer firm responsible for the fails, and the names of the customers of responsible brokers and dealers responsible for the short sales. The fails statistics of individual firms and customers is proprietary information and may reflect firms' trading strategies. The release of this information could be used to engage in unlawful upward manipulation of the price of the securities in order to "squeeze" the firms improperly.

******* So it's OK to illegally short something but we certainly don't want to cause a "squeeze".



To: kknightmcc who wrote (176)4/22/2005 8:42:19 AM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5034
 
More from Mark Cuban's blog, including some great responses to our very own Jeff Mitchell.

30. Posted Mar 1, 2005, 10:49 AM ET by Bob O'Brien
Jeff:

Huh. Another guy who can't make a distinction between short selling - a legal activity, and naked short selling - an illegal manipulation technique.

JEFF: 1. We Need to Eliminate Naked Short Selling to Level the Playing Field

BOB: We need to enforce the law. It's illegal. Get it? Illegal. Hello?

It is like confusing consensual sex and forced, violent rape. Most know the difference and are clear on it. Plus, it’s illegal. Did I mention that?

Now to the more ridiculous "points" in item 1:

Well, I suppose that if a hedge fund is systematically selling a stock and committing to make an affirmative determination and promising to deliver the shares and then violating all the rules against not doing so, it is inconceivable that they would ignore the no short on uptick rule - why (gasp) that just wouldn't be right!!! And heavens knows they wouldn't use the ECN's to program trade in a flurry so that they could, in the highly unlikely event that they decided THAT was the rule they were going to observe, create a cascade of ever lower asks using the hundreds of thousands of shares in their long accounts and then naked short in between the inevitable upticks. Again, that is unimaginable - unless of course you've looked at some of the hedge funds suspected of doing this and seen the long accounts, and watched the program trading off the ECN's during attacks.

You don't get out much. Read the Compudyne NASD complaint if you are arguing that it can’t happen with our system. It does, all the time – 975 different trades selling over a third of their float short without the system making a peep in the Compudyne case. Your argument that nobody could be driving over 55 because there are rules against it is specious.

JEFF: 2. Naked Short Selling Destroys Innocent Thinly Traded Companies

BOB: 2. It can and does. Most recognize that the ability to sell an unlimited supply of bogus shares of a company for which there is limited demand will result in precipitous price declines. This isn’t rocket science. Even the SEC recognizes it.

From their own sec.gov site:

“Although short selling serves useful market purposes, it also may be used to illegally manipulate stock prices. One example is the "bear raid" where an equity security is sold short in an effort to drive down the price of the security by creating an imbalance of sell-side interest. Further, unrestricted short selling can exacerbate a declining market in a security by increasing pressure from the sell-side, eliminating bids, and causing a further reduction in the price of a security by creating an appearance that the security price is falling for fundamental reasons.”

And

“Many issuers and investors have complained about alleged "naked short selling," especially in thinly-capitalized securities trading over-the-counter. Naked short selling is selling short without borrowing the necessary securities to make delivery, thus potentially resulting in a "fail to deliver" securities to the buyer.
Naked short selling can have a number of negative effects on the market, particularly when the fails to deliver persist for an extended period of time and result in a significantly large unfulfilled delivery obligation at the clearing agency where trades are settled. At times, the amount of fails to deliver may be greater than the total public float. In effect the naked short seller unilaterally converts a securities contract (which should settle in three days after the trade date) into an undated futures-type contract, which the buyer might not have agreed to or that would have been priced differently. The seller's failure to deliver securities may also adversely affect certain rights of the buyer, such as the right to vote. More significantly, naked short sellers enjoy greater leverage than if they were required to borrow securities and deliver within a reasonable time period, and they may use this additional leverage to engage in trading activities that deliberately depress the price of a security.“

31. Posted Mar 1, 2005, 10:50 AM ET by Bob O'Brien

Now to your study #1: That proves that the SEC doesn’t prosecute naked shorting much. It doesn’t mean that there isn’t much naked shorting or market manipulation. It means that they don’t really understand it, or that the short side manipulators are more sophisticated. Speaking to friends of mine that are ex-SEC, my take is that they don’t understand it very well – most SEC folks couldn’t even tell you the basic mechanics of a naked short sale, much less be on the alert to prosecute.

Now to your study #2. That is a popular study that compares companies that complained about being shorted, and then concludes that they were likely overvalued – seems reasonable to me. What does it have to do with naked shorting? Nothing. Jeff, again, intermingles naked short selling, an illegal manipulation tactic, and legitimate short selling, as though they are one and the same. Why this cognitive dissonance? Don’t know. Legal vs. Illegal. Or, again, again, consensual sex vs. forced rape. Pretty easy for me to get the difference. I suppose that the ones that don’t are the ones more likely to be rapists. Dunno. It’s one possible explanation, as I’ve never understood the rape thing, but that doesn’t mean I pretend it doesn’t happen with regularity.

After making this egregious fallacy of equivocation, he then goes on to conclude that short sellers have enough impositions and rules reigning them in. Again, at no point does he seem to make any distinction between legal and illegal shorting, and further at no point does he recognize that the only way there could be a Reg SHO list is if the rules on the books were not being observed or enforced. He further misses that what is being demanded is not new rules or regulations, but rather simply the enforcement of the rules that have been on the books for 71 years.

Jeff misses a lot. In fact, the whole point. Now when obviously highly intelligent and capable writers miss by that wide a margin, I have to ask myself whether it is intentional misdirection and intellectual dishonesty, or dimness and a lack of ability to grasp the fundamentals.

You can be the judge.

38. Posted Mar 1, 2005, 5:24 PM ET by Ryan O'Neal
The "failure to delivers" should stop. The entire "delivery" concept was based on paper certificates bouncing around and, in this electronic age, it is ridiculous on its face. Hedgers take advantage of it to de facto counterfeit shares- i.e. money- and screw investors- most of whom don't deserve it.
What moron can possibly defend it?

Question: If short activity expands the share base by 100%, what happens during a BOD election or a proxy fight? Half of the shareholders will not be owners of record, and have no voting rights.