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To: combjelly who wrote (229642)	4/18/2005 1:16:22 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576829

China is still annoyed over the way Japan behaved in the years leading up to WWII. Come on, that's 50+ years ago. Almost every Chinese person that can remember those times is dead by now. It's like the Israelis having a fit because the Germans want to be on the security council. Something else is afoot there. I think the protests are completely unfounded and bizarre. How can the Chinese vehemently hate a country that has done NOTHING to them for ~60 years, especially when their own government has committed plenty of atrocities against the Chinese people over the past 10-20 years.

To: combjelly who wrote (229642)	4/18/2005 1:49:20 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576829

Immediately after WWII, China was in a state of turmoil until Mao took control. But under Mao, China was very insular and had as little to do with the West as possible until Nixon. Since then, China has been more nd more engaged with the West and see themselves as the next big global power. But Japan was being groomed for that role when their economy whoopsied about 15 years ago. So both countries see themselves as the natural leader of the region, and they don't seem to be too interested in cooperating. Too much history between the two. To make it worse, China is still annoyed over the way Japan behaved in the years leading up to WWII. You know it is pretty bad when the Nazi ambassador to Japan complains about how brutally Japan is treating the Chinese... If you haven't looked it up before, google The Rape of Nanking. It doesn't help that in Japan there are some attempts to down play Japan's colonial adventures. I knew that the invasion of China had been brutal. I did not know the degree of the brutality in Nanking. It seems the 1930s and 1940s were a time of horrific behavior on the part of humanity......even more than normal. I guess the Chinese have decided to take on the Japanese. Their growing economic clout really gives them a presence in Asia that they have never had before. I suspect Japan's sun will keep sinking as China's rises. ted

To: combjelly who wrote (229642)	4/18/2005 2:42:28 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576829

Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) defended DeLay by slamming President Bush, who allowed Lott to be toppled as Senate majority leader over an ethics problem. "I do think the White House needs to remember that people who fight hard for you as a candidate and for your issues as a President deserve your support, aggressive support," Lott said. The House's No. 3 Republican, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, insisted DeLay didn't know who paid for the trips. Isn't this what you prophesized a while back.......in fighting and confusion? ted