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To: combjelly who wrote (229845)4/19/2005 12:59:07 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573841
 
There were a lot that came down hard that if there was the potential for human life

I have no way of knowing what a lot of people on net.abortion argued 20 years ago. I also don't really care what they argued. They aren't here and if they really argued that destroying a gamete was the equivalent of murder than they are in such a small minority that they have no real power. More importantly from my perspective I am not arguing that a gamete is a human being.

A strawman argument is when a position is concocted and assigned to someone and then demolished. Extrapolating a position to logical conclusions isn't a strawman argument

It is a straw man argument. Assigning to a gamete the status of a human life is not something that I or anyone else here is doing nor is it the logical conclusion of any argument we have made.

If you want to take the position that it something is a human life, even if it only has the potential for it, then it is exactly as I have stated.

Name one person here who has said that anything that might later become part of a human life should be protected as human life?

In both cases, the host did not voluntarily agree to tying themselves to another for 9 months. How else could you understand it?

In the hypothetical fantasy scenario with the violinist you did nothing to cause the situation. You are kidnapped and against your will force to become life support for the violinist.

If you willingly have sex and then get pregnant (or cause a pregnancy), you caused a new life to become dependent on you (or your partner). If you want to make the situation analogous you would have had to caused the violinist to have the kidney ailment, either deliberately, or at least by knowingly committing an action that had a risk of causing such a situation to occur.

Tim