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To: bentway who wrote (160725)4/20/2005 9:17:23 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 281500
 
"Ahead in body count" is the result of being more powerful, not less discriminating. It says nothing (either positive or negative) about the justice of your cause or the morality of your actions in support of your cause.

Tim



To: bentway who wrote (160725)4/20/2005 9:20:52 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
If body count is your only measure, then the Allies were far worse in WWII than the Axis. Every loser of every war is the virtuous one, in fact, by that score.

I think both the Israelis and the Palestinians are equally to blame for their misery.

No, guy. It takes only one side to breed a war, not two. More diplomatic efforts have gone down the hole in the Middle East than any other five conflicts combined, for the simple fact that the Arab leaders wanted the endless war, rather than a compromised peace. War was the beneficial all purpose excuse for them, and if the Palestinians suffered, what did they care?

Now, if the Arabs had been democracies, their suffering people might have cared. Once again, you can see the different effects of different rulesets. Not everybody behaves the same. Dictarors want war more than Democracies.



To: bentway who wrote (160725)4/20/2005 9:24:37 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
We may have done that in Najaf. It's closed to the press, and no one knows really how many were killed there. I'm against war and killing, for any reason other than self defense.


Huh? Najaf isn't closed, and has been quiet since Sadr was booted out last summer. The townsmen were glad to see the back of him. They support Sistani, not Sadr.