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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: philv who wrote (4715)	4/24/2005 10:27:19 AM
From: tyc:>	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 37667

>>It would be interesting to learn about the Canadian Conservatives proclivity for military adventure which you mention. Was that under Diefenbaker, or Joe Clark, or Brian Mulroney? Please correct me if I am wrong, did not Harper express shame that Canada had not joined "our Southern neighbour in their hour of need" in their Iraqi adventure ? Do you doubt that we would be there now if he had been in power then ?

To: philv who wrote (4715)	4/24/2005 1:22:02 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 37667

Was that under Diefenbaker, or Joe Clark, or Brian Mulroney? ROTF... Where's the Arrow ..... Oh Dief... you sold us out... Conservative War Monger.... LOL On February 20, 1959 "Black Friday," at 11:00 am the Prime Minister Diefenbaker rose in the House of Commons to make an announcement: "Mr. Speaker, with the leave of the house I should like to make a somewhat lengthy statement on the subject of one facet of the national defence of Canada because, after all, the effectiveness, or other-wise, of the measures taken for the national defence until international peace under law is obtained constitutes the passport either to survival or destruction. The announcement I wish to make has to do with the decision regarding our air-defence, which foreshadowed in the statement made by me to the press on September 23 last. "The government has carefully examined and re-examined the probable need for the Arrow aircraft and Iroquois engine known as the CF-105, the development of which has been continued pending a final decision. It has made a thorough examination in the light of all the information available concerning the probable nature of the threats to the North America in the future years, the alternative means of defence against such threats, and the estimated cost thereof. The conclusion arrived at is that the development of the Arrow aircraft and Iroquois engine should be terminated now." Seems to me the Liberals had the right stuff back then.... WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THIS INSANE ONE PARTY RULE NEEDS TO END.... novaonline.nv.cc.va.us regards Kastel..

To: philv who wrote (4715)	4/24/2005 3:17:16 PM
From: Claude Cormier	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37667

<My personal wish is for the country to stay together, but I equally desire a change in government. > Same here. I think that there is only one way for this to happen and it is for whatever government takes the next federal round, to solve the fiscal desiquilibrium by a massive transfer to the provinces especially Quebec. This is not my way of thinking because I prefer small governments and smaller expenses (and for that I applaud what Martin has done when he was financial minister), but Quebecquers are not ready for that (will they ever?). Most of Quebec is way too much socialist and will go against any politicians in Ottawa that forced them to relinquish their social programs through spending cuts. The provincial liberals have had an horrible first two years and have lost a lot of ground here. So that leaves the PQ and the Bloc. Add Harper in Ottawa and you get a perfect reciepe for a "Yes" at the next referendum. The billions cuts in transfer programs has forced Quebec to become leaner and meaner at the expenses of the social programs and the provincial debt. That is why most Quebecquers are angry.