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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (60492)4/28/2005 5:53:33 PM
From: tontoRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Kerry Lied About UN Meeting

John Kerry recently asserted that he would handle foreign relations much more effectively than George Bush and used as an example a meeting he claimed to have held with representatives from every country on the entire UN Security Council before voting to authorize the use of force against Iraq in 2002. The meeting, which Kerry claimed lasted "hours", also offered Kerry an out for his supporting vote for the war among his base. However, the Washington Times' Joel Mowbray reports in tomorrow's edition that the meeting never took place:

U.N. ambassadors from several nations are disputing assertions by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry that he met for hours with all members of the U.N. Security Council just a week before voting in October 2002 to authorize the use of force in Iraq.
An investigation by The Washington Times reveals that while the candidate did talk for an unspecified period to at least a few members of the panel, no such meeting, as described by Mr. Kerry on a number of occasions over the past year, ever occurred.

Kerry actually made this claim a number of times. He originally told the Council on Foreign Relations in December 2003 that he had met with the entire Security Council to help forge a united front against Saddam Hussein, a strange thing for a senator with no portfolio from the White House to do. The unusual nature of Kerry's assertion was not challenged at the time, probably in part because Kerry at the time still publicly defended the war in Iraq. However, Kerry also pulled this story out during the second presidential debate two weeks ago, this time to argue against the war in Iraq.

Now Mowbray has done what the press should have done last December -- he asked the people with whom Kerry claimed to meet, and a number of them denied ever having met with the Massachusetts Senator at all:

But of the five ambassadors on the Security Council in 2002 who were reached directly for comment, four said they had never met Mr. Kerry. The four also said that no one who worked for their countries' U.N. missions had met with Mr. Kerry either. The former ambassadors who said on the record they had never met Mr. Kerry included the representatives of Mexico, Colombia and Bulgaria. The ambassador of a fourth country gave a similar account on the condition that his country not be identified.
Ambassador Andres Franco, the permanent deputy representative from Colombia during its Security Council membership from 2001 to 2002, said, "I never heard of anything." Although Mr. Franco was quick to note that Mr. Kerry could have met some members of the panel, he also said that "everything can be heard in the corridors."

Adolfo Aguilar Zinser, Mexico's then-ambassador to the United Nations, said: "There was no meeting with John Kerry before Resolution 1441, or at least not in my memory."

So who did Kerry meet with before the resolution was adopted? Mowbray can only confirm meetings with Singapore, Cameroon ... and France. The French representative, now Ambassador to the US Jean-David Levitte, also thinks that Kerry met with the British representative, although Mowbray could not confirm that.

In other words, we have yet another wild exaggeration by John Kerry in a key component of the credentials he says qualifies him to be president. Just like his Christmas in Cambodia and his lucky hat, Kerry's prevarications once again demonstrate that he will say anything to puff himself up and make himself more important than he is...



To: American Spirit who wrote (60492)4/28/2005 7:25:26 PM
From: Glenn PetersenRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 81568
 
lorne is right. If the Democrats selected their 2008 presidential candidate today, it would be Hillary. Kerry is toast. Losers rarely get a second chance, and John Kerry is no Richard Nixon.

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Marist College Poll. Feb. 14-16, 2005. Nationwide.

"If the 2008 Democratic presidential primary were held today, whom would you support if the candidates are [see below]?" N=427 Democrats and Democratic leaners who are registered to vote; MoE ± 5

Hillary Clinton 39
John Kerry 21
John Edwards 15
Joe Biden 5
Wesley Clark 4
Russ Feingold 2
Bill Richardson 2
Evan Bayh 1
Mark Warner 1
Tom Vilsack -
Unsure 10

<snip>

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Feb. 4-6, 2005. Nationwide.

"Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Democratic primary for president in the next election. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely to support for the Democratic nomination for president in the year 2008: New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, Massachusetts Senator John Edwards -- or would you support someone else?" Names rotated. N=383 Democrats and Democratic leaners who are registered to vote; MoE ± 6.

Hillary Rodham Clinton 40
John Kerry 25
John Edwards 18
Other 6
All/Any (vol.) 1
None (vol.) 4
Unsure 6

<snip>

pollingreport.com



To: American Spirit who wrote (60492)4/28/2005 7:38:44 PM
From: lorneRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
as. You said....."You just blew your credibility again by posting two ridiculous lies:".....

LOL. You of all people dare to speak of someone else's credibility...Now that's funny.

You said...."- Hillary likely to be the Dem nominee in 2008?"......

Now you know I did not lie :-) here is what I said...."Good thing as she is likely to be your next candidate for Prez. At least she does not have the questionable traitorous background of kerry."......
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As you can plainly see I said " she is likely to be your next candidate for Prez." Now I'm sure that even you can understand that " likely " does not mean IS. So just how does using the word " likely " create a lie??

And of course this...you said....."- Kerry is a "traitor". You know, someone ought to wash out your mouths with soap."......

Now where did I say kerry is a traitor?? I said...."questionable traitorous background".....

I didn't say he was a traitor as you indicate now did I ? :-) Now if you think back many many different people questioned kerry boy's past and it will always remain questionable so he will never ever IMHO be a candidate for Prez again.

So why don't you just get on the hillary band wagon?

And keep up the good work for the republicans. :-)