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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (60533)	4/28/2005 9:07:14 PM
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Uh, I don't see any proof at all. All I see is a bunch of discredited BS & a few proven lies. Could you show me what evidence was provided that proves Kerry made it into Cambodia? Douglas Brinkley was Kerry biographer. He has made assertions, but he has never offered any "proof". At best his assertions are based on Kerry's assertions. Unfortunately no one who served with Kerry has ever admitted to making any trips into Cambodia. Not one - even those who stood with Kerry - his so called "Band of Brothers". Oh & Douglas Brinkley did prove Kerry lied. He even admitted Kerry was NOT in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 on the direct orders of Nixon (who was not even President at the time). And Kerry told this lie repeatedly over the years. It's even in the Congressional record, making this lie undeniable. As Kerry told the Boston Herald in 1979, "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real." ** § Kerry’s own biographer has told reporters that Kerry did not spend Christmas in Cambodia. Historian Douglas Brinkley told the London Telegraph that while Kerry had been 50 miles from the border on Christmas, he "went into Cambodian waters three or four times in January and February 1969 on clandestine missions." One presumes this information came from the biographer’s subject (Kerry). § But recently, Brinkley told The Washington Post: "I'm under the impression that they were near the Cambodian border," said Brinkley, in the interview. So Kerry's statement about being in Cambodia at Christmas "is obviously wrong," he said. "It's a mongrel phrase he should never have uttered." § The Kerry campaign has refused to release Kerry's personal Vietnam archive, including his journals and letters, saying that the senator is contractually bound to grant Brinkley exclusive access to the material. But Brinkley said this week the papers are the property of the senator and in his full control. § "I don't mind if John Kerry shows anybody anything," he said. "If he wants to let anybody in, that's his business. Go bug John Kerry, and leave me alone." The exclusivity agreement, he said, simply requires "that anybody quoting any of the material needs to cite my book." § Kerry’s account is also undermined by two former Kerry crew members who support his candidacy, but do not back his Cambodia story. Last week, the Boston Globe reported that: “James Wasser, who accompanied Kerry on that mission aboard patrol boat No. 44 and who supports Kerry's candidacy, said that while he believes they were ‘very, very close’ to Cambodia, he did not think they entered Cambodia on that mission.” § The paper also said that: “Michael Medeiros, who served aboard the No. 94 with Kerry and appeared with him at the Democratic National Convention, vividly recalled an occasion on which Kerry and the crew chased an enemy to the Cambodian border but did not go beyond the border. Yet Medeiros said he could not recall dropping off special forces in Cambodia or going inside Cambodia with Kerry.” § Finally, Kerry's own journal, kept while on duty, says (as reproduced in Brinkley's book): "The banks of the [Rach Giang Thanh River] whistled by as we churned out mile after mile at full speed. On my left were occasional open fields that allowed us a clear view into Cambodia. At some points, the border was only fifty yards away and it then would meander out to several hundred or even as much as a thousand yards away, always making one wonder what lay on the other side." This entry was from Kerry’s final mission. § Apparently, neither John Kerry nor his crew could read a chart. In Kerry’s biography, (Tour of Duty pg. 208) they arrive at the confluence of the Co Chien and My Tho Rivers only “one hour” from Cambodian border. A casual look at the charts would have shown that Kerry was actually 70 miles from Cambodia—perhaps one hour by Helicopter. **

To: American Spirit who wrote (60533)	4/28/2005 10:33:22 PM
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Then there is his statement on the floor of the U.S. Senate on March 27, 1986: Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me, that says to me, before we send another generation into harm's way we have a responsibility in the U.S. Senate to go the last step, to make the best effort possible in order to avoid that kind of conflict. **** Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia story doesn't appear in the official biography of his war years, Tour of Duty, by Douglas Brinkley. According to that book, Kerry spent Christmas of that year at Sa Dec, more than 50 miles from Cambodia.